Just purchased a Cessna 172 Skyhawk II. We are in the Seattle/Everett
area and are looking for a third member to share this 10 outside / 8
inside aircraft. The ultimate purpose it to convert it to a Super
Hawk with the Penn Yan 180Hp kit. The engine is high time, about
1700 hours, and we will try to sell it with the prop prior to its
TBO. The share is about $10K. This includes insurance for a year and
a banch of other expenses we had to pay. This is the actual cost, we
have no interest in any gain from this transaction, just a reliable
member that is willing to go along with us and upgrate to Super Hawk.

Since we purchased this VFR 1976 C-172, we also need to sell our share
(1/7th) in a 1967 C-172. The last has a low time engine new paint,
full IFR and the lowest cost flying you can imagine. Most member have
been "arownd" and don’t fly much, so the cost is very very low. The share
cost is $4,200.

Call me (Tee) (206) 525-9939 Eve.

I have been an air traffic controller for the last 7 years, now in
Cheyenne, Wyoming.  During that time I have heard and seen many funny
and entertaining things.

I would like to read any funny or interesting stuff you may have heard
over the radio or around the airport.   Basically any funny story will
do.  I have found that not only are these stories entertaining but we
all might be able to learn something from them also.

Here is an example of what I am looking for.

    I was working tower one day when a student pilot called 5 miles
    southeast of the airport inbound landing.  After about 10 minutes
    he stillwas not in sight so I asked him is positon.   He replied "I
    am 5 miles southeast".  After a few of these same questions and
    answer I finally asked him to tell me a landmark that he was flying
    over.  His reply "I am flying over a big field"

Any humorous story you have would be appreciated.  I will try to keep a
file of all the stories and distribute it to whomever would like to
have a copy.

Thanks

ScottK1…@AOL.COM

I have read of several people in the net being involved in the young
eagles program. I am interested in joining, and helping GA grow (or at
least not die). Now would someone tell me how do I get into it. I just got
my ticket, so I will also need to know if there is a minimum of hours
required ? I believe not as long as I have my license, but you never know.
I am based in Hyde field (W32), about 30 minutes from downtown Washington DC.

Thanks
—
Roberto E. Ruiz . P.O.Box 40326 Washington DC. 20016

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                                                Geoff

Has anyone calibrated the "Universal Fuelhawk" (by J-Air) fuel pipette for
Cherokees and/or C-172s?  I’m a renter, just bought one and didn’t realize
it requires emptying a wing tank, then filling it in 5-gallon increments in
order to calibrate the pipette.  I’m particularly interested in
Warrior/Archer numbers.   Thanks.
—
:::::::::::::          Mark Bisgeier      m…@netcom.com          :::::::::::::
:::::::::::::  "We’ve said all there is to be said, haven’t we?"  :::::::::::::

        Can anyone send me a list of the upcoming Air Shows in the N.E.
   area? thanks in advance.  I misplaced the copy the FAA sent me earlier
   this year.

    Lee    N36er  Grumman Tiger

I know this has been beaten to death, but I just received an article from
AOPA about the C172 and there is a reference to this problem.

Article: "Anatomy of a Success" (The makings of a winner) by Thomas A.
Horne, AOPA Pilot in May, 1992. In describing the phenominal success
and popularity of this plane when introduced in 1955, the author says this:

"There was — and still is — one handling quirk: In a forward slip with
flaps extended, a 172 could pitch nose down, violently enough to push a
pilot against his seat belt. This is caused by an upturned aileron’s
reducing the normally strong downwash of air over the horizontal tail.
Though puzzling in its infrequency, Cessna saw the potential for trouble.
Consequently, a placard is installed near the flap control: Avoid slips
with flaps extended."

Hi there,

I will soon relocate to the US from the Netherlands and I am
seriously considering to get a PPL (a dream I have cultivated for very
long now…) I will reside in Indianapolis. Can anybody out there
tell me about flight schools and clubs in the region, instructions
and rental rates, etc?

Any tip is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Luca Zullo
zul…@ksla.nl

I am looking for information on the construction of aircraft. I am doing a
research report for a college class, and it involves the corrosive effects of
acid rain on aircraft. I assume that aircraft are made of metals, but I do not
know which specific ones are used. I would appreciate any information on this
as it is a major grade.
                             Sincerely,
                             Christin Carothers

In article <2uqotq$…@search01.news.aol.com> rku…@aol.com (Rkueck) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone has, or currently is, attending flight
>safety international.  I have my private right now and am planning on
>going to FSI in vero beach some time this winter to get the rest of
>my ratings.  I was just curious to see if anyone has any info or
>comments about it…..I would greatly appreciate any comments or
>suggestions about it or any other school.  Thanks….

Not sure if it’s still true, but in the late 80′s Flight Safety made
the claim that no one trained by them had ever had a fatal accident.
To me, that says quite a lot. I didn’t train there, but I’ve talked
to them and I know they use a lot of good simulators and have a very
extensively developed course. Some insurance companies at one time
anyway even gave better rates or reduced time in type requirements for
FSI "grads". Also if you’re thinking of a flying career, a good school
may be viewed more favorably over local independent CFI (not that some
aren’t VERY good) by prospective employers. You might check it out with
them now. Good luck.

–
Steve Barkley  PP-ASEL,MEL,IA
b…@network.com    Network Systems Corp.   Minneapolis, MN (612)391-1127

"Fly, because you can’t beat fun for a good time"