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Airbus A380 whistleblower article

I’d certainly be a little wary of the new plane after reading this, but
honestly, this does not surprise me in the least. The aviation industry
is concerned with money first, safety a far distant second.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q121218EB

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  1. admin says:

    "Guy Elden Jr" <guyj…@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1128277881.162060.301250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com

    > I’d certainly be a little wary of the new plane after reading this,
    > but honestly, this does not surprise me in the least. The aviation
    > industry is concerned with money first, safety a far distant second.

    As long as we’re supporting the theory of conspiracies (rooted in money),
    consider he’s an American working on a European airliner considered by many
    to be a Boeing-killer.  No possibility of ulterior motive there, right?  :)


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  2. admin says:

    On 2 Oct 2005 11:31:21 -0700, "Guy  Elden Jr" <guyj…@gmail.com>
    wrote in <1128277881.162060.301…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>::

    >I’d certainly be a little wary of the new plane after reading this, …

    Quote from :
    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-whistleblower27sep27,0,7486292….

        By Peter Pae, Times Staff Writer:
        "Airbus, owned by Dutch and British companies, surpassed Boeing in
        2003 as the world’s largest maker of airliners."

    After reading the above LA Times quote, I’m a little wary of Mr. Pae’s
    facts.  Shouldn’t that be "French" rather than "Dutch"?

  3. admin says:

    Larry Dighera <LDigh…@att.net> wrote:
    > Quote:

    >     By Peter Pae, Times Staff Writer:
    >     "Airbus, owned by Dutch and British companies, surpassed Boeing in
    >     2003 as the world’s largest maker of airliners."

    > After reading the above LA Times quote, I’m a little wary of Mr. Pae’s
    > facts.  Shouldn’t that be "French" rather than "Dutch"?

    German, British, French, and Spanish, plus some generally traded shares. No
    Dutch, unless they own some of the common shares.

  4. admin says:

    On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:07:15 -0500, James Robinson <wasc…@212.com>
    wrote in <Xns96E3CCB05D8FEwascanamailcircui…@216.196.97.142>::

    >Larry Dighera <LDigh…@att.net> wrote:

    >> Quote:

    >>     By Peter Pae, Times Staff Writer:
    >>     "Airbus, owned by Dutch and British companies, surpassed Boeing in
    >>     2003 as the world’s largest maker of airliners."

    >> After reading the above LA Times quote, I’m a little wary of Mr. Pae’s
    >> facts.  Shouldn’t that be "French" rather than "Dutch"?

    >German, British, French, and Spanish, plus some generally traded shares. No
    >Dutch, unless they own some of the common shares.

    Right.  

    Oh well, I guess we all misspeak at times.  US Supreme Court Chief
    Justice, the reputed brilliant, John Roberts certainly did while
    speaking after being sworn in:
    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/09/29/text...

        The process we have just completed epitomizes the separation of
        powers that is enshrined in our Constitution.

        My nomination was announced some 10 weeks ago here in the White
        House, the home of the executive branch. This morning, further up
        Pennsylvania Avenue, it was approved in the Capitol, the home of
        the executive branch.

        And, tomorrow, I will go into the Supreme Court building to join
        my colleagues, the home of the judicial branch, to undertake my
        duties.

  5. admin says:

    This type of design may or may not be a problem depending on the fail
    safe mode of the valves. Most pressurization valves I know of are are
    spring loaded shut and require electrical and/or pneumatic power to be
    opened.
    Michelle

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    Guy Elden Jr wrote:
    >I’d certainly be a little wary of the new plane after reading this, but
    >honestly, this does not surprise me in the least. The aviation industry
    >is concerned with money first, safety a far distant second.

    >http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q121218EB

  6. admin says:

    ("Larry Dighera" wrote)

    > Oh well, I guess we all misspeak at times.  US Supreme Court Chief
    > Justice, the reputed brilliant, John Roberts certainly did while
    > speaking after being sworn in:

    The one I’ll alsways remember:

    Hubert (Horatio) Humphrey
    (Mayor of Mpls, MN Senator, VP under LBJ, 1968 Presidential candidate, MN
    Senator again)

    Humphrey’s 1978 funeral – President Jimmy Carter’s eulogy. Ooops!!
    "I am speaking of a great man who should have been President and would have
    been one of the greatest Presidents in history, Hubert Horatio Hornblower."

    Montblack

  7. admin says:

    "James Robinson" <wasc…@212.com> wrote in message

    news:Xns96E3CCB05D8FEwascanamailcircuitco@216.196.97.142…

    > Larry Dighera <LDigh…@att.net> wrote:

    >> Quote:

    >>     By Peter Pae, Times Staff Writer:
    >>     "Airbus, owned by Dutch and British companies, surpassed Boeing in
    >>     2003 as the world’s largest maker of airliners."

    >> After reading the above LA Times quote, I’m a little wary of Mr. Pae’s
    >> facts.  Shouldn’t that be "French" rather than "Dutch"?

    > German, British, French, and Spanish, plus some generally traded shares.
    > No
    > Dutch, unless they own some of the common shares.

    A pathetic mistake by a journalist.

    The Airbus majority shareholder company EADS NV has a Dutch addess viz

    European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company EADS N.V.
    Le Carré · Beechavenue 130-132 · 1119 PR Schiphol Rijk · The Netherlands.

    Airbus itself is 80% owned by EADS and 20% by BAE Systems.

    it took 2 minutes to find that out.

  8. admin says:

    John T wrote:
    > "Guy Elden Jr" <guyj…@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:1128277881.162060.301250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com

    > > I’d certainly be a little wary of the new plane after reading this,
    > > but honestly, this does not surprise me in the least. The aviation
    > > industry is concerned with money first, safety a far distant second.

    > As long as we’re supporting the theory of conspiracies (rooted in money),
    > consider he’s an American working on a European airliner considered by many
    > to be a Boeing-killer.  No possibility of ulterior motive there, right?  :)

    Except that the pressurization system overall is being done by Hamliton
    Sundstrand, part of UTC which si quite an American company, and Boeing
    is apparently interested in using the parts this guy is blowing the
    whistle on. Plus it’s pretty clear this guy is digging himself a very
    deep hole in terms of his own future. None of which proves that he is
    right, not a crank, etc, but it does seem to reduce the possibilities.

    -cwk.

  9. admin says:

    ckingsb…@gmail.com wrote:
    > Except that the pressurization system overall is being done by Hamliton
    > Sundstrand, part of UTC which si quite an American company, and Boeing

    Ah! That’s it! This American company deliberately sells broken parts to
    Airbus to ruin their reputation! And I’m sure Boeing is paying them to
    do so! :-)

    Stefan

  10. admin says:

    Montblack wrote:

    > Humphrey’s 1978 funeral – President Jimmy Carter’s eulogy. Ooops!!
    > "I am speaking of a great man who should have been President and would
    > have been one of the greatest Presidents in history, Hubert Horatio
    > Hornblower."

    Nice try, but it wasn’t Humphrey’s funeral, although people frequently
    cliam it was.   It was during his acceptance speech at the Democtratic
    National Convention in August of 1980.  I remember watching that speech
    live.  Humphrey died over two years earlier.

  11. admin says:

    ("Ron Natalie" wrote)

    > Nice try, but it wasn’t Humphrey’s funeral, although people frequently
    > cliam it was.   It was during his acceptance speech at the Democtratic
    > National Convention in August of 1980.  I remember watching that speech
    > live.  Humphrey died over two years earlier.

    Agreed.

    <http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/08/18/politics/main225899.shtml&gt;

    Montblack

  12. admin says:

    Montblack wrote:
    > ("Larry Dighera" wrote)
    > > Oh well, I guess we all misspeak at times.  US Supreme Court Chief
    > > Justice, the reputed brilliant, John Roberts certainly did while
    > > speaking after being sworn in:

    > The one I’ll alsways remember:

    I am a jelly donut.

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