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Better Light Control Signals

It seems to me that the rules for light controls are whacko, confusing
and dangerous.

The current rules being

                in the Air                      on the Ground

Red             Give way to other               Stop
                A/C, Continue Circling  

Flashing        Ldg not permitted               Clear Runway
Red

Green           Land                            Take off

Flashing        Return for Ldg                  Taxi
Green          

White           Does not Apply                  Return

Alternating     Caution                         Caution
Red / Green

Comments:  I have no experience with light signals,  Nor am I allowed to
until I meet with the FAA and say that light is Green, that one Red, that
one White.  (I’m slightly color blind  (ahh, the real reason I’m posting
this))  I hope I don’t screw up the white and green.

It seems flashing anything color in the air can be mis-interpreted (was
that a solid Red, with me bouncing around in this A/C, or a true flashing
Red?)

Alternating Red and Green, Can you say stupid?  Talk about asking for a
misinterpretation!  How about the regs simply saying, when using light
signals use extreme caution.  And if they are unwilling to do this, why
don’t they shine both at the same time,  I’m more likely to pick up Red
and Green than Red then Green.

Okay, here’s my proposed new and improved light signals

                In the Air              On the Ground

Red             Ldg not Permitted       Stop; or if on Runway
                                        Clear Runway

Green           Land                    Take off

Flashing        Does Not Apply          Return
Red

Flashing        Does Not Apply          Taxi
Green

Red and         Give way to other       Does Not Apply
Green           A/C continue Circling

See, I’ve conveniently left out the White Light, Eliminated all flashing
lights in the sky, and the flashing lights on the ground are not
dangerous (currently Pilot could think Stop on the runway as the
controller is trying to tell him to get off of the runway!)

Comments Please before I send this off to our FAA friends.

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One Response to “Better Light Control Signals”

  1. admin says:

    There are some good reasons for the signals used.  The light gun only
    has ONE light.  It can be either red, green or white as they rotate the
    filters.  They have a trigger to turn it on and flash it.  In actual
    practice, the only light signals I have received are red, flashing red,
    green, flashing green.  Usually just red or green.  90% of the time,
    just green!  I usually call first, they are looking for me and expecting
    me.  I usually don’t go into busy fields on lights.  They see me, they
    know I am coming, they know I have the numbers and know what to do,
    they give me the green light, and I do it.  No problem.  
    John

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    On Thu, 23 May 1996, Kenneth Spatz wrote:
    > It seems to me that the rules for light controls are whacko, confusing
    > and dangerous.

    > The current rules being

    >            in the Air                      on the Ground

    > Red                Give way to other               Stop
    >            A/C, Continue Circling  

    > Flashing   Ldg not permitted               Clear Runway
    > Red

    > Green              Land                            Take off

    > Flashing   Return for Ldg                  Taxi
    > Green              

    > White              Does not Apply                  Return

    > Alternating        Caution                         Caution
    > Red / Green

    > Comments:  I have no experience with light signals,  Nor am I allowed to
    > until I meet with the FAA and say that light is Green, that one Red, that
    > one White.  (I’m slightly color blind  (ahh, the real reason I’m posting
    > this))  I hope I don’t screw up the white and green.

    > It seems flashing anything color in the air can be mis-interpreted (was
    > that a solid Red, with me bouncing around in this A/C, or a true flashing
    > Red?)

    > Alternating Red and Green, Can you say stupid?  Talk about asking for a
    > misinterpretation!  How about the regs simply saying, when using light
    > signals use extreme caution.  And if they are unwilling to do this, why
    > don’t they shine both at the same time,  I’m more likely to pick up Red
    > and Green than Red then Green.

    > Okay, here’s my proposed new and improved light signals

    >            In the Air              On the Ground

    > Red                Ldg not Permitted       Stop; or if on Runway
    >                                    Clear Runway

    > Green              Land                    Take off

    > Flashing   Does Not Apply          Return
    > Red

    > Flashing   Does Not Apply          Taxi
    > Green

    > Red and            Give way to other       Does Not Apply
    > Green              A/C continue Circling

    > See, I’ve conveniently left out the White Light, Eliminated all flashing
    > lights in the sky, and the flashing lights on the ground are not
    > dangerous (currently Pilot could think Stop on the runway as the
    > controller is trying to tell him to get off of the runway!)

    > Comments Please before I send this off to our FAA friends.







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