They are "endorsements".

Of course, if your BFR has expired, you can’t be PIC during the review
anyhow…

"RK Henry" <robert.he…@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:09:31 GMT, Dave S <Dasta…@earthlink.net>
> wrote:

> >Pinging the group for an answer here.

> >Scenario: Up for flight review, elect to have instruction in a
> >taildragger for the purpose of the flight review. Have a PP-ASEL, but do
> >NOT have a one time endorsement in tailwheel aircraft that permits one
> >to be PIC.

> What about if you used the taildragger endorsement as part of a Wings
> phase? A safety seminar and some dual for which you get a nice
> certificate and pin and you don’t have to bother with a flight review.
> Would that work? I think you’ re supposed to get a variety of
> instruction, including some instrument work, to satisfy Wings, but I
> expect that the taildragger work ought to satisfy most of them.

> RK Henry

> The regs say you must take the flight review in an aircraft that one is
> "rated" for. Does rated apply to "category and class" or is there also
> the need to meet tailwheel, complex or high performance as well (when
> applicable)?

Ratings are the things that appear on your pilot certificate.
Category, class, and for things that require it a type rating
(jets and other large aircraft).   Tailwheel, complex, or
HP do not count.  They aren’t ratings.

Does it say they need the endorsement even if they are grandfathered in (pre what…’93?)???

>Pinging the group for an answer here.

>Scenario: Up for flight review, elect to have instruction in a
>taildragger for the purpose of the flight review. Have a PP-ASEL, but do
>NOT have a one time endorsement in tailwheel aircraft that permits one
>to be PIC.

What about if you used the taildragger endorsement as part of a Wings
phase? A safety seminar and some dual for which you get a nice
certificate and pin and you don’t have to bother with a flight review.
Would that work? I think you’ re supposed to get a variety of
instruction, including some instrument work, to satisfy Wings, but I
expect that the taildragger work ought to satisfy most of them.

RK Henry

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> So, if you have a SEL, MEL, and seaplane ratings do you have to do a BFR
> in three different planes?

No and for that matter, and I think this is insane, when I got my R-H
certificate that acted as my BFR for ASEL which at the time I hadn’t been in
the cockpit of one for 5 years.

So strickly speaking, for satisfying FAA requirements, yes, you can do
your flight review training in a taildragger if you don’t have a
tailwheel signoff. But practical matters dictate that you are going to
need it.

Granted, the FAQ’s are pretty far down the list in the scheme of things
with regards to the regulatory heirarchy, but it’s the "party line".

By the way, in my situation, I did about 8 hours total in the tailwheel,
to the point I could manage wheel landings, 3 pointers and xwinds with
both. This was over 2 days, and combined with some spectacular mountain
area flying in the Salt Lake area. My friend/instructor was not sure if
a BFR in a plane I was not endorsed in would pass the "smell test" if it
were ever auditied, so we hammered things out to the point he felt I was
endorseable for PIC tailwheel. Combined with about 3-4 hours of
tailwheel dabbling over the past 4-5 years, I made the transition fairly
well, given that the 180 was characterized as a little more difficult
than an ordinary entry level tailwheel.

Thanks for the replies and opinions with regards to the ratings issue,
even though at this point it’s purely an academic exercise with regard
to me.

Dave

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George Patterson wrote:
> Dave S wrote:

>> The regs say you must take the flight review in an aircraft that one
>> is "rated" for. Does rated apply to "category and class" or is there
>> also the need to meet tailwheel, complex or high performance as well
>> (when applicable)?

> You need to be rated in category and class. Keep in mind, though, that
> somebody needs to be acting PIC. If you don’t have the tailwheel
> signoff, the CFI has to have it.

> George Patterson
>      Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
>      use the Internet and he won’t bother you for weeks.

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> So, if you have a SEL, MEL, and seaplane ratings do you have to do a BFR
> in three different planes?