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		<title>Where is everyone flying for Christmas?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;re supposed to head to Wisconsin on the 26th &#8212; but the weather is looking fairly ugly, with yet another low-pressure center zipping through the Midwest. &#160;Might have to fly the Subaru IFR at 0&#8242; AGL&#8230; Where are your chestnuts roasting this year? Merry Christmas, all! &#8212; Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re supposed to head to Wisconsin on the 26th &#8212; but the weather is <br /> looking fairly ugly, with yet another low-pressure center zipping <br /> through the Midwest. &nbsp;Might have to fly the Subaru IFR at 0&#8242; AGL&#8230; <br /> 
<p>Where are your chestnuts roasting this year?  </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.foraviators.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Merry Christmas, all! <br /> &#8212; <br /> Jay Honeck <br /> Iowa City, IA <br /> Pathfinder N56993 <br /> www.AlexisParkInn.com <br /> &quot;Your Aviation Destination&quot; </p>
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		<title>Flying on Christmas Eve? Keep your eyes outside</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[TRACK SANTA ONLINE Beginning at 0900Z on December 24 you can track Santa live online at www.NoradSanta.org as he makes his annual round-the-world flight. &#34;Santa has had to adapt over the years to having less and less time to deliver his toys,&#34; states the Web site, which is run by the North American Aerospace Defense [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRACK SANTA ONLINE <br /> Beginning at 0900Z on December 24 you can track Santa live online at <br /> www.NoradSanta.org as he makes his annual round-the-world flight. &quot;Santa <br /> has had to adapt over the years to having less and less time to deliver <br /> his toys,&quot; states the Web site, which is run by the North American <br /> Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD). With a world population of more than <br /> 6.5 billion, Santa has but a fraction of a second to deliver a gift to <br /> each person on Earth. &quot;The fact that Santa Claus is more than 15 <br /> centuries old and does not appear to age is our biggest clue that he <br /> does not work within time, as we know it.&quot; </p>
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		<title>Dreams of Flying</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In keeping with the Christmas spirit, this post is not meant to advance the technology of aviation, nor is it designed to stir any controversy (there&#8217;s enough of that the rest of the year). &#160;This is just a lighthearted, whimsical post. Most pilots I&#8217;ve met talk about how they have always dreamed of flying. &#160;So [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In keeping with the Christmas spirit, this post is not meant to <br /> advance the technology of aviation, nor is it designed to stir any <br /> controversy (there&#8217;s enough of that the rest of the year). &nbsp;This is <br /> just a lighthearted, whimsical post. <br /> 
<p>Most pilots I&#8217;ve met talk about how they have always dreamed of <br /> flying. &nbsp;So let&#8217;s get more specific. &nbsp;What kind of dreams?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go first.  </p>
<p>My earliest flying dreams didn&#8217;t involve an airplane at all. &nbsp;As a <br /> very little kid I had just learned how to &quot;dog paddle&quot; in a swimming <br /> pool. &nbsp;I was very proud of that achievement, but it just wasn&#8217;t <br /> enough!  </p>
<p>That night I remember dreaming that I was standing in the front yard <br /> of my parent&#8217;s house, and dog paddling for all I was worth! &nbsp;The <br /> harder I could thrash my arms and legs, the higher I could go! &nbsp;Over <br /> the telephone poles, looking down on all the jealous neighbor kids, I <br /> was having the time of my life.  </p>
<p>Later in life I &quot;graduated&quot; to actually dreaming of being a pilot in <br /> an aircraft, then realizing that dream by finally getting my PPL, but <br /> those early dreams are still very vivid in my mind.  </p>
<p>Anybody else care to share their dreams?  </p>
<p>Merry Christmas to all,  </p>
<p>Steve Job </p>
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		<title>frost on the wing</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The other day I went flying, pretty close to the shortest day of the year, to preserve night currency. &#160;I took advantage of a day that wasn&#8217;t brutally cold &#8211; in fact it was above freezing, so I didn&#8217;t need preheat or thermal underwear. &#160;It was good to get in the air after several months [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other day I went flying, pretty close to the shortest day of the year, to preserve night currency. &nbsp;I took advantage of a day that wasn&#8217;t brutally cold &#8211; in fact it was above freezing, so I didn&#8217;t need preheat or thermal underwear. &nbsp;It was good to get in the air after several months of not flying hardly at all (we had the longest, most beautiful fall but I was stuck indoors doing two shows at the same time). &nbsp;I had to taxi over a bit of an ice berm in front of the wheels, but it wasn&#8217;t a problem, and the pavement was wet from the melting ice (we had several inches of ice storm a week or so ago which is still around). <br /> 
<p>By the time I got in the air, I was happy and all was well with the world. &nbsp;After doing some night full stop landings, I followed I-84 up to Beacon and back just to &quot;go somewhere&quot; and then came home. &nbsp;By now temperatures were just below freezing, but it was clear and so I didn&#8217;t give it much consideration.  </p>
<p>Landed without incident, braking was good (and was also reported good by aircraft before me), and I taxiied to the ramp, a relatively unfamiliar part of the airport since we moved the airplanes. &nbsp;The airplane seemed to be sliding a bit, as if there was ice on the pavement. &nbsp;Well, of course there was; the wet pavement had frozen in the interim. &nbsp;I was afraid of that, and this meant that putting the plane away would not be as easy as taking it out. &nbsp;After a struggle I did manage to get it pushed back over the ice berms (pulling up on the wing while pushing back helped, as did pulling with the tiedown ropes when I got close enough). &nbsp;But when I was pretty much done, I noticed there was frost on the wings, which hadn&#8217;t been there before.  </p>
<p>Which got me thinking &#8211; maybe the FAA isn&#8217;t so crazy after all. &nbsp;If frost can form while the plane is &nbsp;just sitting there, why could it not form while the plane is flying? &nbsp;(yeah, there&#8217;s some frictional heating, but we could lower the temp a bit more, no?) &nbsp;And if frost isn&#8217;t such a good thing to have on takeoff, it&#8217;s probably not so good in flight either.  </p>
<p>Any thoughts? &nbsp;Have you seen this before?  </p>
<p>Jose <br /> &#8212; <br /> You can choose whom to befriend, but you cannot choose whom to love. <br /> for Email, make the obvious change in the address. </p>
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		<title>No one has posted the Santa Claus/GA thread yet???!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am disappointed. I figured someone would have posted it by now and set of a fire storm of posts about how stupid it is and never to post it again! Bwahahaha!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am disappointed. I figured someone would have posted it by now and set of <br /> a fire storm of posts about how stupid it is and never to post it again! <br /> Bwahahaha! </p>
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		<title>Christmas Eve</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 15:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have always had problems with the heat in my plane. &#160;In the fall, I replaced a lot of the scat tubes, at least the ones I could get to easily. Unfortunately, that only helped the problem a bit, but it didn&#8217;t cure it. Winter flights were an ordeal, especially for those in the rear [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always had problems with the heat in my plane. &nbsp;In the fall, I <br /> replaced a lot of the scat tubes, at least the ones I could get to easily. <br /> Unfortunately, that only helped the problem a bit, but it didn&#8217;t cure it. <br /> Winter flights were an ordeal, especially for those in the rear seat. &nbsp;I <br /> bought sleeping bags to slip over the legs, or use as blankets. &nbsp;Sometimes I <br /> like to think of my airplane as having the same utility as a car with wings, <br /> and this really shattered that concept (along with preheating, bad weather <br /> and worring about whether Aunt Mabel weighed 120 pounds like she said, or <br /> 240 pounds like she looked). <br /> 
<p>I decided to take the next step and replace the door seals. &nbsp;I did the right <br /> one yesterday, and the left one today. &nbsp;While things were apart, I decided <br /> to paint the door edges which would be visible after the seals were <br /> replaced.  </p>
<p>My girlfriend came to the airport just as I was finishing up. &nbsp;Her sister is <br /> visiting from Iran, and they both wanted to do some sightseeing over the <br /> Eastern Shore.  </p>
<p>The weather was just a little bumpy, but the visibility was great. Nothing <br /> but a few cirrus above us. &nbsp;It was a great flight, lots of low and slow for <br /> picture taking. &nbsp;And, it was so damned hot that you could cook a frozen <br /> pizza on the glareshield. &nbsp;And that was without any significant leaning. &nbsp;In <br /> fact, I think I will do that next time. &nbsp;Kinda like Bob Hoover. &nbsp;I&#8217;ll put a <br /> cup of coffee on the glareshield and watch while it &#8230;doesn&#8217;t &#8230; cool .. <br /> off. &nbsp;Or, I could rig up a pump and have a pressurized cabin. &nbsp;I&#8217;d be fine <br /> right up to the flight levels.  </p>
<p>It was Sherrie&#8217;s first flight in a light plane. &nbsp;I doubt whether there is <br /> any GA in Iran, so it might be her last for a while.  </p>
<p>It was a great day, beautiful flight, and a good feeling of accomplishment. <br /> Most of the time, life sucks. &nbsp;But not today. </p>
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		<title>Question &#8211; rudder flutter ?</title>
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		<title>Flying in Germany</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://jimsladesairlines.com/beil.html I&#8217;ve known Harmut from many years ago when he was flying his Ercoupe from the Bay Area. &#160;He returned to Germany a few years ago and wrote this report from his native land on the differences between US and German GA. &#8212; Everybody&#8217;s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there&#8217;s a really easy way; stop [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>http://jimsladesairlines.com/beil.html <br /> 
<p>I&#8217;ve known Harmut from many years ago when he was flying his Ercoupe <br /> from the Bay Area. &nbsp;He returned to Germany a few years ago and wrote <br /> this report from his native land on the differences between US and <br /> German GA. <br /> &#8212; <br /> Everybody&#8217;s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there&#8217;s a really <br /> easy way; stop participating in it. <br /> &nbsp;~ Noam Chomsky </p>
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		<title>Re: Help In Choosing A School For A Private Pilot&#039;s License</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I instructed out of Boeing Field for 20 years and spent a lot of time at Renton, so maybe I can help. No one can say which school is &#34;best,&#34; because the bottom line is the instructor-student relationship. It would be useful to know whether you plan to go Part 141 (more structured) or Part [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I instructed out of Boeing Field for 20 years and spent a lot of time at <br /> Renton, so maybe I can help. No one can say which school is &quot;best,&quot; because <br /> the bottom line is the instructor-student relationship. It would be useful <br /> to know whether you plan to go Part 141 (more structured) or Part 61 (more <br /> free-form). Part 141 requires ground school; Part 61 could be resident <br /> ground school, home study, whatever&#8230;no specific requirement. The end <br /> result is the same. ..the certificate still says &quot;Airplane &#8211; Single Engine <br /> Land.&quot; <br /> 
<p>I don&#8217;t know where you live, but of those listed, I would lean toward <br /> Pro-Flight IF you find an instructor you click with. Proximity of Sea-Tac is <br /> irrelevant&#8230;the Sea-Tac airspace will have an impact on your training <br /> wherever you go. Becoming familiar with operations in and near Class B <br /> airspace will give you a huge advantage over someone whose instructor shies <br /> away from congested airspace. <br /> Acuwings is new to me, but they have an impressive fleet according to their <br /> website. If you can swing the finances, go there and train in the Cirrus.  </p>
<p>Galvin&#8217;s is the 800-pound gorilla. Probably the best of the bunch insofar as <br /> quality is concerned. They have been in the flight training business since <br /> before I got my private in 1962, and you don&#8217;t survive in this business <br /> unless you provide a superior product. Don&#8217;t be put off by taxi <br /> distances&#8230;that&#8217;s a poor argument, and it would apply to Wings Aloft as <br /> well.  </p>
<p>Wings is a club, as you note, and that&#8217;s a good thing. They have a lot of <br /> club-type activities&#8230;fly-outs, seminars, dances, parties, etc for those <br /> who are interested. Their planes are well-maintained and the whole operation <br /> is polished. It&#8217;s not Galvins, but then again Galvins is not a club.  </p>
<p>You quote someone at Pro-Flight as saying a two-weekend ground school is <br /> tough&#8230;try one weekend! Don&#8217;t be fooled&#8230;the sole purpose of these &quot;ground <br /> schools&quot; is to prepare you for the written exam, nothing more. Aviation <br /> Seminars, a traveling road show, simply goes through the questions on the <br /> exam (they are available to the public) and tells you why what they say is <br /> the correct answer is correct&#8230;very little depth&#8230;and they do it in one <br /> weekend. There are question-answer-explanation books that do the same thing <br /> at your leisure. If you want to get more insight than that&#8230;and you <br /> should&#8230;both ASA, Gleim, and the Kings have DVD courses. Maybe Pro-Flight <br /> uses one of them. Go to The Aviator&#8217;s Store on Boeing Field and look at what <br /> is for sale.  </p>
<p>PremAir is not for you&#8230;it is aircrew training.  </p>
<p>The best advice that you got was from Acuwings&#8230;.you have to have an <br /> instructor with whom you can communicate. Everything else is secondary.  </p>
<p>Bob Gardner <br /> &quot;Chris L&quot; &lt;clusard&#8230;@aol.com&gt; wrote in message </p>
<p>news:4ee1abdb-9054-405b-b890-4d3560ceda76@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com&#8230;  </p>
<p>-   &#8212;   -</p>
<p>&gt; Hello, I know virtually nothing about flying, but am planning on <br /> &gt; getting a private flying license. I have already talked to a few of <br /> &gt; the schools in and around the Tukwila/Renton Washington area, and want <br /> &gt; to know which is the best all around school. <br /> 
<p>&gt; (1) Pro-Flight Aviation Inc uses a relatively quiet airport (Renton), <br /> &gt; but it&#8217;s still close to Sea-Tac International airport. It seems to be <br /> &gt; the most cost effective, has only 3 teachers, uses a DVD interactive <br /> &gt; course as the ground school, and one person has told me they are not <br /> &gt; very customer friendly. A person there said it&#8217;s very very hard to <br /> &gt; learn ground school material in a cram 2 weekend course.  </p>
<p>&gt; I bought for $109.99 the &quot;Virtual Test Prep an Aviation Ground School, <br /> &gt; Private 08 Pilot&quot; to study and prepare for the airplane private pilot <br /> &gt; FAA Knowledge Exam by ASA. I also bought the book Guided Flight <br /> &gt; Discovery Private Pilot by Jeppesen, because the owner of the company <br /> &gt; said I would, basically, have to read certain sections.  </p>
<p>&gt; (2) Galvin Flying Service is expensive, has 25 trainers, but uses the <br /> &gt; busy (taxing time etc) Boeing airfield.  </p>
<p>&gt; (3) Acuwings is also uses the quiet Renton airport, says they&#8217;re more <br /> &gt; customer friendly, will be &quot;starting&quot; a new/free ground training class <br /> &gt; in Jan, use old aircraft (80&#8242;s), will teach me on a Tomahawk. A person <br /> &gt; there told me to learn from an instructor who I like.  </p>
<p>&gt; (4) Wings Aloft has 15 to 20 instructors, requires a membership, and I <br /> &gt; will call them back to talk to the right person.  </p>
<p>&gt; (5) PremAir is open Monday through Friday, but I have to call them <br /> &gt; back to see what they offer.  </p>
<p>&gt; (6) Northway Aviation is about an hour away, so it&#8217;s too far to drive.  </p>
<p>&gt; It appears that I can get the license in about 6 months if I take <br /> &gt; lessons two to three times a week (Saturday, Sunday, Monday) for about <br /> &gt; an hour each time.  </p>
<p>&gt; So what should I do, <br /> &gt; Christopher Lusardi  </p>
<p>&gt; P.S.: It&#8217;s all for fun and remotely work related. But, I can be able <br /> &gt; to pretend that I will to become an astronaut some day. [[:-)) </p>
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		<title>Hi to ALL. I just join this group.</title>
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