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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;3195au$...@pendragon.jsc.nasa.gov&gt;, kje...@sd-www.jsc.nasa.gov (Kenneth C. Jenks) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; Craig Staggs (craig.sta...@bthouse.com) wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; : I was here on that day. Infact I was at the airport that day. Got there &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; : about 7 minutes before it came in. I saw the whole thing. Assisted where &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; : I could. I went to my usual perch where I do most of my departure &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; : shoots at. It was a spectical that never really leaves your mind. &#160;I&#039;ve &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; : witnessed 3 such airliner crashes, saw a DC-10 in Dallas go off the &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; : Runway on the north end, and watch a Merlin Metro plow in at Austin Muni &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; : some years ago. I&#039;ve seen numerous belly flops and such, but nothing &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; : like United 232. I was at the aftermath of the Easter L-1011 and 727 &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; : crashes in dallas and though they were really bad scenes, 232 just &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; : really was a nasty scene. [...] &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; Craig, unless you&#039;re with the NTSB or a professional accident &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; reporter, you&#039;ve attended WAY more than your share of accidents. &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; The word &quot;jinx&quot; comes to mind. &#160;It&#039;s not that I wouldn&#039;t want to &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; meet you, but please don&#039;t visit Houston any time soon. &#160;Oh, and &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; I wouldn&#039;t mind if you&#039;d stay away from those Shuttle landings, &lt;br /&gt; &#124;&gt; too. &#160;We have a hard enough time landing without engines. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;Now Now, is he a &quot;jinx&quot;, or is he an extremely LUCKY person for not &lt;br /&gt; having been killed in any of these crashes? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I witnessed my first crash ever at the Concord, NH, airshow last &lt;br /&gt; summer. &#160;A Steerman with a wingwalker (the pilot&#039;s daughter) crashed &lt;br /&gt; and burned right in front of me and my 8 year old daughter. &#160;I hope to &lt;br /&gt; never repeat the experience. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mike Friedman, WB2WNX &lt;br /&gt; Comm Glider &lt;br /&gt; Inst Pvt ASEL &lt;br /&gt; PA-28-160 N5540W &quot;The Hershey Warrior&quot; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;3195au$&#8230;@pendragon.jsc.nasa.gov&gt;, <a href="mailto:kje...@sd-www.jsc.nasa.gov">kje&#8230;@sd-www.jsc.nasa.gov</a> (Kenneth C. Jenks) writes: <br /> |&gt; Craig Staggs (craig.sta&#8230;@bthouse.com) wrote: <br /> |&gt; : I was here on that day. Infact I was at the airport that day. Got there <br /> |&gt; : about 7 minutes before it came in. I saw the whole thing. Assisted where <br /> |&gt; : I could. I went to my usual perch where I do most of my departure <br /> |&gt; : shoots at. It was a spectical that never really leaves your mind. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve <br /> |&gt; : witnessed 3 such airliner crashes, saw a DC-10 in Dallas go off the <br /> |&gt; : Runway on the north end, and watch a Merlin Metro plow in at Austin Muni <br /> |&gt; : some years ago. I&#8217;ve seen numerous belly flops and such, but nothing <br /> |&gt; : like United 232. I was at the aftermath of the Easter L-1011 and 727 <br /> |&gt; : crashes in dallas and though they were really bad scenes, 232 just <br /> |&gt; : really was a nasty scene. [...] <br /> |&gt; <br /> |&gt; Craig, unless you&#8217;re with the NTSB or a professional accident <br /> |&gt; reporter, you&#8217;ve attended WAY more than your share of accidents. <br /> |&gt; The word &quot;jinx&quot; comes to mind. &nbsp;It&#8217;s not that I wouldn&#8217;t want to <br /> |&gt; meet you, but please don&#8217;t visit Houston any time soon. &nbsp;Oh, and <br /> |&gt; I wouldn&#8217;t mind if you&#8217;d stay away from those Shuttle landings, <br /> |&gt; too. &nbsp;We have a hard enough time landing without engines. <br /> 
<p>Now Now, is he a &quot;jinx&quot;, or is he an extremely LUCKY person for not <br /> having been killed in any of these crashes?  </p>
<p>I witnessed my first crash ever at the Concord, NH, airshow last <br /> summer. &nbsp;A Steerman with a wingwalker (the pilot&#8217;s daughter) crashed <br /> and burned right in front of me and my 8 year old daughter. &nbsp;I hope to <br /> never repeat the experience.  </p>
<p>Mike Friedman, WB2WNX <br /> Comm Glider <br /> Inst Pvt ASEL <br /> PA-28-160 N5540W &quot;The Hershey Warrior&quot; </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;3195au$...@pendragon.jsc.nasa.gov&gt;, kje...@sd-www.jsc.nasa.gov (Kenneth C. Jenks) says: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;Craig, unless you&#039;re with the NTSB or a professional accident &lt;br /&gt; &gt;reporter, you&#039;ve attended WAY more than your share of accidents. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;The word &quot;jinx&quot; comes to mind. &#160;It&#039;s not that I wouldn&#039;t want to &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; ^^^^^^ &lt;br /&gt; &gt;meet you, but please don&#039;t visit Houston any time soon. &#160;Oh, and &lt;br /&gt; &gt;I wouldn&#039;t mind if you&#039;d stay away from those Shuttle landings, &lt;br /&gt; &gt;too. &#160;We have a hard enough time landing without engines. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;-- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/SD5, Space Biomedical Research Institute &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; ^^^^^ &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now, *this* is truly a case of the pot calling the kettle... ;-} &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Brent Weathered &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;&quot;next time u fly &lt;br /&gt; Commercial, ASEMEL, IA, GIA-I, CFI-I &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;take a kid...&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &#039;49 Cessna 170 for class, Comanche 250 for fast! &#160; &#160; &#160;35 Young Eagles! &lt;br /&gt; ======================================================================== &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;3195au$&#8230;@pendragon.jsc.nasa.gov&gt;, <a href="mailto:kje...@sd-www.jsc.nasa.gov">kje&#8230;@sd-www.jsc.nasa.gov</a> (Kenneth C. Jenks) says: <br /> 
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<p>&gt;Craig, unless you&#8217;re with the NTSB or a professional accident <br /> &gt;reporter, you&#8217;ve attended WAY more than your share of accidents. <br /> &gt;The word &quot;jinx&quot; comes to mind. &nbsp;It&#8217;s not that I wouldn&#8217;t want to <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ^^^^^^ <br /> &gt;meet you, but please don&#8217;t visit Houston any time soon. &nbsp;Oh, and <br /> &gt;I wouldn&#8217;t mind if you&#8217;d stay away from those Shuttle landings, <br /> &gt;too. &nbsp;We have a hard enough time landing without engines.  </p>
<p>&gt;&#8211; Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/SD5, Space Biomedical Research Institute </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ^^^^^  </p>
<p>Now, *this* is truly a case of the pot calling the kettle&#8230; ;-}  </p>
<p>Brent Weathered &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;next time u fly <br /> Commercial, ASEMEL, IA, GIA-I, CFI-I &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;take a kid&#8230;&quot; <br /> &#8217;49 Cessna 170 for class, Comanche 250 for fast! &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;35 Young Eagles! <br /> ======================================================================== </p>
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  Craig Staggs (craig.sta...@bthouse.com) wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;: I was here on that day. Infact I was at the airport that day. Got there &lt;br /&gt; : about 7 minutes before it came in. I saw the whole thing. Assisted where &lt;br /&gt; : I could. I went to my usual perch where I do most of my departure &lt;br /&gt; : shoots at. It was a spectical that never really leaves your mind. &#160;I&#039;ve &lt;br /&gt; : witnessed 3 such airliner crashes, saw a DC-10 in Dallas go off the &lt;br /&gt; : Runway on the north end, and watch a Merlin Metro plow in at Austin Muni &lt;br /&gt; : some years ago. I&#039;ve seen numerous belly flops and such, but nothing &lt;br /&gt; : like United 232. I was at the aftermath of the Easter L-1011 and 727 &lt;br /&gt; : crashes in dallas and though they were really bad scenes, 232 just &lt;br /&gt; : really was a nasty scene. [...] &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;Craig, unless you&#039;re with the NTSB or a professional accident &lt;br /&gt; reporter, you&#039;ve attended WAY more than your share of accidents. &lt;br /&gt; The word &quot;jinx&quot; comes to mind. &#160;It&#039;s not that I wouldn&#039;t want to &lt;br /&gt; meet you, but please don&#039;t visit Houston any time soon. &#160;Oh, and &lt;br /&gt; I wouldn&#039;t mind if you&#039;d stay away from those Shuttle landings, &lt;br /&gt; too. &#160;We have a hard enough time landing without engines. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/SD5, Space Biomedical Research Institute &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; kje...@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov &#160;(713) 483-4368 &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160;&quot;The only way to make a difference in the world is to put ten &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; times as much effort into everything as anyone else thinks &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; is reasonable. &#160;It doesn&#039;t leave any time for golf or cocktails, &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; but it gets things done.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;-- Admiral Hyman G. Rickover &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig Staggs (craig.sta&#8230;@bthouse.com) wrote: </p>
<p>: I was here on that day. Infact I was at the airport that day. Got there <br /> : about 7 minutes before it came in. I saw the whole thing. Assisted where <br /> : I could. I went to my usual perch where I do most of my departure <br /> : shoots at. It was a spectical that never really leaves your mind. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve <br /> : witnessed 3 such airliner crashes, saw a DC-10 in Dallas go off the <br /> : Runway on the north end, and watch a Merlin Metro plow in at Austin Muni <br /> : some years ago. I&#8217;ve seen numerous belly flops and such, but nothing <br /> : like United 232. I was at the aftermath of the Easter L-1011 and 727 <br /> : crashes in dallas and though they were really bad scenes, 232 just <br /> : really was a nasty scene. [...] <br /> 
<p>Craig, unless you&#8217;re with the NTSB or a professional accident <br /> reporter, you&#8217;ve attended WAY more than your share of accidents. <br /> The word &quot;jinx&quot; comes to mind. &nbsp;It&#8217;s not that I wouldn&#8217;t want to <br /> meet you, but please don&#8217;t visit Houston any time soon. &nbsp;Oh, and <br /> I wouldn&#8217;t mind if you&#8217;d stay away from those Shuttle landings, <br /> too. &nbsp;We have a hard enough time landing without engines.  </p>
<p>&#8211; Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/SD5, Space Biomedical Research Institute <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="mailto:kje...@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov">kje&#8230;@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov</a> &nbsp;(713) 483-4368  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;The only way to make a difference in the world is to put ten <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; times as much effort into everything as anyone else thinks <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; is reasonable. &nbsp;It doesn&#8217;t leave any time for golf or cocktails, <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; but it gets things done.&quot; <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&#8211; Admiral Hyman G. Rickover </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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  Bob Noel (r...@mitre.org) wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;: In some other posts, at least one person made comments that &lt;br /&gt; : suggest to me that an IFR-certified GPS receiver could be used &lt;br /&gt; : in lieu of an ADF even though the approach procedure specifically &lt;br /&gt; : states: &quot;ADF-required&quot;. &#160;Is this true? &#160;What document(s) are the &lt;br /&gt; : basis for this? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;Twas me. I got the info from my CFII/Accident Prevention Counselor/Arnav GPS &lt;br /&gt; owner. A GPS certified for &quot;terminal&quot; can be used to find iaf&#039;s and other &lt;br /&gt; parts of an approach (but not fly the approach itself - like past the faf &lt;br /&gt; perhaps). I think this comes from the POH supplement for the GPS receiver/ &lt;br /&gt; installation. Will try to find out more. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;dave allen - Fly because you love it. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Noel (r&#8230;@mitre.org) wrote: </p>
<p>: In some other posts, at least one person made comments that <br /> : suggest to me that an IFR-certified GPS receiver could be used <br /> : in lieu of an ADF even though the approach procedure specifically <br /> : states: &quot;ADF-required&quot;. &nbsp;Is this true? &nbsp;What document(s) are the <br /> : basis for this? <br /> 
<p>Twas me. I got the info from my CFII/Accident Prevention Counselor/Arnav GPS <br /> owner. A GPS certified for &quot;terminal&quot; can be used to find iaf&#8217;s and other <br /> parts of an approach (but not fly the approach itself &#8211; like past the faf <br /> perhaps). I think this comes from the POH supplement for the GPS receiver/ <br /> installation. Will try to find out more.  </p>
<p>dave allen &#8211; Fly because you love it. </p>
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