General discussion for aviators





People…

For those of you who exist in the clarified, rarified world of upper-
echelon corporate life, or hang out with pilots all day, it’s hard to
remember the wide range of human behaviors that exist.   I, too, once
existed there, and clearly remember walking the halls of the Fortune
500 company, finding it easy to believe that the whole world was
populated by intelligent, hard-driving "doers".

When you run a hotel, however, you see the entire panoply of the human
experience, often in the same day.  Over time you realize that the
world is split unevenly between "doers" and "takers", and it’s
sometimes hard to tell which side is winning.  After a day like
yesterday it’s hard to even believe that we’ve lumped so many
different creatures under the one title "homo sapiens".

On Saturday we:

- Hosted a gathering of Swearingen SX-300 pilots in our Jack Knight
Meeting Room.  These top-notch pilots held a seminar on formation
flying, and then spent the day thrilling the city with formation over-
flights.  They’re doing it again as I’m typing this.  (If you’re not
familiar with the SX-300, I suggest doing a web search.  It is about
the coolest single engine plane out there.)

- Dealt with a couple of Wayne’s World look-alikes, who — at 11 AM —
staggered into the lobby so stoned they couldn’t feel their feet,
looking for a suite.  Mary took one look at them, loudly pronounced
what she was smelling in their presence, and told them to hit the
bricks….

- Took a call from a former guest who — a week ago — claimed to have
tripped and fell entering the Mustang Suite.  She has supposedly gone
to a chiropractor three times, and is threatening to sue us if we
don’t compensate her in some way.

All of this happened between 11 AM and 1 PM.  Call it "The Good, The
Bad, and The Ugly".

Next time you’re sitting at your big desk in your corner office,
gazing over the city whilst sipping your third latte of the day and
sweating your stock options, try to remember that the real world is
just beyond the smoked glass…

;-)

Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

posted by admin in Uncategorized and have Comments (24)






24 Responses to “People…”

  1. admin says:

    "Jay Honeck" <jjhon…@mchsi.com> wrote in message

    news:1191769464.542099.49210@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com…

    > For those of you who exist in the clarified, rarified world of upper-
    > echelon corporate life, or hang out with pilots all day, it’s hard to
    > remember the wide range of human behaviors that exist.   I, too, once
    > existed there, and clearly remember walking the halls of the Fortune
    > 500 company, finding it easy to believe that the whole world was
    > populated by intelligent, hard-driving "doers".

    > When you run a hotel, however, you see the entire panoply of the human
    > experience, often in the same day.  Over time you realize that the
    > world is split unevenly between "doers" and "takers", and it’s
    > sometimes hard to tell which side is winning.  After a day like
    > yesterday it’s hard to even believe that we’ve lumped so many
    > different creatures under the one title "homo sapiens".

    Yeah.  For every one of me, there are 10 Mxsmanic’s, and 0.0001 Ron
    Wantaja’s.

  2. admin says:

    On Oct 7, 12:09 pm, "Ken Finney" <kcfin…@comcast.net> wrote:

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > "Jay Honeck" <jjhon…@mchsi.com> wrote in message

    > news:1191769464.542099.49210@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com…

    > > For those of you who exist in the clarified, rarified world of upper-
    > > echelon corporate life, or hang out with pilots all day, it’s hard to
    > > remember the wide range of human behaviors that exist.   I, too, once
    > > existed there, and clearly remember walking the halls of the Fortune
    > > 500 company, finding it easy to believe that the whole world was
    > > populated by intelligent, hard-driving "doers".

    > > When you run a hotel, however, you see the entire panoply of the human
    > > experience, often in the same day.  Over time you realize that the
    > > world is split unevenly between "doers" and "takers", and it’s
    > > sometimes hard to tell which side is winning.  After a day like
    > > yesterday it’s hard to even believe that we’ve lumped so many
    > > different creatures under the one title "homo sapiens".

    Hmmm… Come to my world for a day…  Sorry to point this out, but
    the takers are winning…
    The, don’t work, won’t work, sashay in hours late for the appointment
    with a ‘you owe me’ attitude…
    The whiners, whackos, and just plain crazy are increasing in numbers
    as the decades go by..
    My suspicion is thet we doers have created this…
    We have made the world so safe there is no penalty for being lazy or
    crazy…
    A hundred years ago if you refused to work, you starved… And the
    town merely shrgged and said, ‘that’ll learn ya, durn ya’…
    Those who pay little or nothing (per their insurance) out of their
    pocket at the time of service are increasingly hostile and
    demanding…
    The medicaid insured who are required by state law to pay just two
    dollars for an office call have every excuse in the book why they
    can’t do that…
    The clueless, who owe us thousands of dollars that they have never
    made a single dollar in payment upon,
    scream and swear and spit <literally> at my receptionist when she
    informs them they have to pay before service from now on…

    I have been actively practicing medicine for over 30 years, and we
    have been in this office for 26 years, and until this past week
    I have never turned a patient away for any reason – and especially
    over money – but my accountant tells me if I do not start getting paid
    I might as well close the doors….

    Then there are the mentally challenged who can’t seem to grasp that if
    they eat everything in sight and weigh over 300 pounds,
    why I can’t just give them a pill that will make them look like a
    magazine cover model…
    The diabetics who can’t grasp the fact that if they skip their insulin
    they will wind up in the EMR unconcious – and keep doing it…
    And the COPD with heart failure who can barely walk across the room
    who tell me they  can’t
    quit smoking because they will gain weight if they do! <honest injun
    story>

    denny

  3. admin says:

    Welcome to my world of emergency medicine (the good, the bad and the
    ugly of human behavior; unfortunately I can’t take one look at them
    and throw them out due to pesky federal laws).

    And people wonder why I need to go fly (and go for my daily jog) to
    clear my head…

    And no, I’m not flying while distracted (like Jay got lambasted upon
    after a hard day at work in a recent thread). I’m distracted by flying
    from the distractions of everyday life…

    Unfortunately my 172 is in annual and I’m starting to withdraw…the
    shakes are starting, it’s been 7 days…I need a second airplane just
    for annual time and when it’s down for maintence! (speaking of Ron
    Wanntaja, I’m enamoured with a Fly Baby!)

    -Ryan

  4. admin says:

    "Denny" <k…@mailblocks.com> wrote in message

    news:1191775295.048738.300280@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com…

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > On Oct 7, 12:09 pm, "Ken Finney" <kcfin…@comcast.net> wrote:
    > > "Jay Honeck" <jjhon…@mchsi.com> wrote in message

    > > news:1191769464.542099.49210@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com…

    > > > For those of you who exist in the clarified, rarified world of upper-
    > > > echelon corporate life, or hang out with pilots all day, it’s hard to
    > > > remember the wide range of human behaviors that exist.   I, too, once
    > > > existed there, and clearly remember walking the halls of the Fortune
    > > > 500 company, finding it easy to believe that the whole world was
    > > > populated by intelligent, hard-driving "doers".

    > > > When you run a hotel, however, you see the entire panoply of the human
    > > > experience, often in the same day.  Over time you realize that the
    > > > world is split unevenly between "doers" and "takers", and it’s
    > > > sometimes hard to tell which side is winning.  After a day like
    > > > yesterday it’s hard to even believe that we’ve lumped so many
    > > > different creatures under the one title "homo sapiens".

    > Hmmm… Come to my world for a day…  Sorry to point this out, but
    > the takers are winning…
    > The, don’t work, won’t work, sashay in hours late for the appointment
    > with a ‘you owe me’ attitude…
    > The whiners, whackos, and just plain crazy are increasing in numbers
    > as the decades go by..
    > My suspicion is thet we doers have created this…
    > We have made the world so safe there is no penalty for being lazy or
    > crazy…
    > A hundred years ago if you refused to work, you starved… And the
    > town merely shrgged and said, ‘that’ll learn ya, durn ya’…

    <snip>

    The Bible is quite clear on the subject:  "Let his who will not work, not
    eat." ( 2 Thessalonians 3:10).

    Works for me!

  5. admin says:

    <rwub…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

    news:1191775396.476543.15970@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com…

    > And people wonder why I need to go fly (and go for my daily jog) to
    > clear my head…

    > And no, I’m not flying while distracted (like Jay got lambasted upon
    > after a hard day at work in a recent thread). I’m distracted by flying
    > from the distractions of everyday life…

    I "fly a (management) desk" now that I have "retired" from active military
    flying.
    So people wonder why I spend every Saturday at the local soaring club…
    it’s called rejuvenation.

    BT

  6. admin says:

    > Hmmm… Come to my world for a day…  Sorry to point this out, but
    > the takers are winning…
    > The, don’t work, won’t work, sashay in hours late for the appointment
    > with a ‘you owe me’ attitude…
    > The whiners, whackos, and just plain crazy are increasing in numbers
    > as the decades go by..
    > My suspicion is thet we doers have created this…

    Absolutely agree.  As with all things, I suspect it’s cyclical.  The
    deficit shows that the takers are taking more than we doers can
    produce, and the whole cradle-to-grave welfare system in America and
    Western Europe will soon come crashing down.

    We’ve now spent three months, and several thousand dollars,
    advertising for two positions (one full- and one part-time) at the
    hotel.  These are not difficult jobs (front desk), but they do require
    a person with the ability to follow procedures and be personable.   It
    also helps if they aren’t afraid of working.

    We have now hired seven people — quite literally all seven who have
    applied.  One never showed up for their first day; one turned out to
    be bipolar, and I literally had to call the police to get them out of
    here; one showed up late their first two days — I fired him on the
    fourth day; one stole money from us but left before I could fire her.

    The other three are still on the payroll, for now.  (Why three?  Cuz
    we went with three part-time workers, rather than risking hiring
    another full-time nut-case.)

    Meanwhile, I see able-bodied young men standing in front of WalMart
    with a cup, begging for change to buy cheap wine, and eating three
    free squares a day at the "shelter".

    Five years ago I had all the staff I wanted, and few guests.  Now I’ve
    got guests coming out of my ears, and few staff. Anyone who says the
    economy isn’t booming (and, of course, the media would NEVER report
    this in an election year) is simply not paying attention.

    It’s frightening.  Luckily, flying is a wonderful escape from it all.
    Unfortunately, Sunday afternoon is our usual time to go "family
    flying" — but I’m working till 8 PM tonight because we have no one to
    work this shift…

    Jay Honeck
    Iowa City, IA
    Pathfinder N56993
    http://www.AlexisParkInn.com
    "Your Aviation Destination"

  7. admin says:

    On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:04:24 -0700, Jay Honeck <jjhon…@mchsi.com>
    wrote:

    >For those of you who exist in the clarified, rarified world of upper-
    >echelon corporate life, or hang out with pilots all day, it’s hard to
    >remember the wide range of human behaviors that exist.

    Some of us are on the lower "echelons" of corporate life, so I totally
    get it.

    My "office" alternates between an 8′x10′ cubicle and the windshield of
    a clapped-out 2000 Chevy Cavalier with Scotchlight major telephone co.
    logos on the side.

    My wife and I subscribe to the "pay yourself first" plan, so the 401k
    and her 403b get paid well before the airplane payment.  I build
    high-end cabinets and custom furniture to pay for my half of a Beech
    Sundowner.  Soon, I expect to instruct to pay for my flying.  I’ve had
    part time jobs my entire life, as a musician, sound engineer, trim
    carpenter, bicycle salesperson, bicycle mechanic, tile and hardwood
    floor mechanic, and airport lineman to supplement my fun.

    I look at it as "all good", as I’ve had experiences that I wouldn’t
    trade for all the money in the world.  I know those behaviors… <G>

  8. admin says:

    > My "office" alternates between an 8′x10′ cubicle and the windshield of
    > a clapped-out 2000 Chevy Cavalier with Scotchlight major telephone co.
    > logos on the side.

    Ugh…cubicle life.  I spent a few years in one, and wouldn’t want to
    go back any time soon.

    On the other hand, I also worked in one of those vaunted "open office
    settings", where you literally had a desk and a file cabinet, in the
    middle of a dozen or more other people who ALSO had a desk and a file
    cabinet, in one giant room. The idea was to "promote communication and
    work flow"…

    I’ll take the cube any day, thanks.  Every single person had to stop
    at your desk on their way through "just to say ‘hi!’" — which meant
    ZERO work was ever accomplished.  Being a social person it was fun,
    but in the end very, very frustrating.

    Jay Honeck
    Iowa City, IA
    Pathfinder N56993
    http://www.AlexisParkInn.com
    "Your Aviation Destination"

  9. admin says:

    Very well stated Denny.

    I believ you are right… the "Do’ers" created this worthless POS
    "takers" by enabling them.

    Some things will have to change in this country or it will end
    up a chapter in history one day along with the Roman empire.

  10. admin says:

    On Oct 7, 9:04 am, Jay Honeck <jjhon…@mchsi.com> wrote:

    > For those of you who exist in the clarified, rarified world of upper-
    > echelon corporate life, or hang out with pilots all day, it’s hard to
    > remember the wide range of human behaviors that exist.   I, too, once
    > existed there, and clearly remember walking the halls of the Fortune
    > 500 company, finding it easy to believe that the whole world was
    > populated by intelligent, hard-driving "doers".

    > When you run a hotel, however, you see the entire panoply of the human
    > experience, often in the same day.  Over time you realize that the
    > world is split unevenly between "doers" and "takers", and it’s
    > sometimes hard to tell which side is winning.  After a day like
    > yesterday it’s hard to even believe that we’ve lumped so many
    > different creatures under the one title "homo sapiens".

    "A Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of Government. It can
    only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse
    (a liberal gift) out of public treasury. From that moment on the
    majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits
    from the public treasury with the result that Democracy always
    collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a
    Dictatorship."

    We are there. The takers have won.

    Gene Seibel
    Tales of Flight – http://pad39a.com/gene/tales.html
    Because I fly, I envy no one.

  11. admin says:

    While not 100% on-topic, if you have a chance, view the movie "Idiocracy".
    Warning:  foul language, lousy acting, and weak script, but if you stick
    with the precept of the dumbing-down of society, it’s a funny but sobering
    view of where we could be heading….  Basically, a 2005 guy who’s the most
    center-of-the-bell-curve goes into a hibernation experiment, gets forgotten,
    and wakes up 500 yrs later – as the smartest guy in the world.

    Carl

    "Jay Honeck" <jjhon…@mchsi.com> wrote in message

    news:1191769464.542099.49210@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com…

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > For those of you who exist in the clarified, rarified world of upper-
    > echelon corporate life, or hang out with pilots all day, it’s hard to
    > remember the wide range of human behaviors that exist.   I, too, once
    > existed there, and clearly remember walking the halls of the Fortune
    > 500 company, finding it easy to believe that the whole world was
    > populated by intelligent, hard-driving "doers".

    > When you run a hotel, however, you see the entire panoply of the human
    > experience, often in the same day.  Over time you realize that the
    > world is split unevenly between "doers" and "takers", and it’s
    > sometimes hard to tell which side is winning.  After a day like
    > yesterday it’s hard to even believe that we’ve lumped so many
    > different creatures under the one title "homo sapiens".

    > On Saturday we:

    > – Hosted a gathering of Swearingen SX-300 pilots in our Jack Knight
    > Meeting Room.  These top-notch pilots held a seminar on formation
    > flying, and then spent the day thrilling the city with formation over-
    > flights.  They’re doing it again as I’m typing this.  (If you’re not
    > familiar with the SX-300, I suggest doing a web search.  It is about
    > the coolest single engine plane out there.)

    > – Dealt with a couple of Wayne’s World look-alikes, who — at 11 AM —
    > staggered into the lobby so stoned they couldn’t feel their feet,
    > looking for a suite.  Mary took one look at them, loudly pronounced
    > what she was smelling in their presence, and told them to hit the
    > bricks….

    > – Took a call from a former guest who — a week ago — claimed to have
    > tripped and fell entering the Mustang Suite.  She has supposedly gone
    > to a chiropractor three times, and is threatening to sue us if we
    > don’t compensate her in some way.

    > All of this happened between 11 AM and 1 PM.  Call it "The Good, The
    > Bad, and The Ugly".

    > Next time you’re sitting at your big desk in your corner office,
    > gazing over the city whilst sipping your third latte of the day and
    > sweating your stock options, try to remember that the real world is
    > just beyond the smoked glass…

    > ;-)
    > —
    > Jay Honeck
    > Iowa City, IA
    > Pathfinder N56993
    > http://www.AlexisParkInn.com
    > "Your Aviation Destination"

  12. admin says:

    On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:43:16 -0700, rwub…@hotmail.com wrote:
    > And no, I’m not flying while distracted (like Jay got lambasted upon
    > after a hard day at work in a recent thread). I’m distracted by flying
    > from the distractions of everyday life…

    Isn’t that amazing?  It all just falls away during pre-flight.

    I’ve recently started studying Taekwondo, and it’s the same: as soon as I
    start the warm-ups, the various demands and pressures of the day just
    seem to fall away.

    [Admittedly, mine are nothing like those of an ER MD.]

            – Andrew

  13. admin says:

    Jay Honeck writes:
    > We have now hired seven people — quite literally all seven who have
    > applied.  One never showed up for their first day; one turned out to
    > be bipolar, and I literally had to call the police to get them out of
    > here; one showed up late their first two days — I fired him on the
    > fourth day; one stole money from us but left before I could fire her.

    How much do you pay them?

  14. admin says:

    > How much do you pay them?

    Part-timers start at $8/hour plus commission.

    Considering this is an entry-level position, in a town with 34,000
    college students, I find it quite remarkable that we’re having so much
    trouble finding good people….

    Jay Honeck
    Iowa City, IA
    Pathfinder N56993
    http://www.AlexisParkInn.com
    "Your Aviation Destination"

  15. admin says:

    "Jay Honeck" <jjhon…@mchsi.com> wrote in message

    news:1191769464.542099.49210@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com…

    > – Dealt with a couple of Wayne’s World look-alikes, who — at 11 AM —
    > staggered into the lobby so stoned they couldn’t feel their feet,
    > looking for a suite.  Mary took one look at them, loudly pronounced
    > what she was smelling in their presence, and told them to hit the
    > bricks….

    > – Took a call from a former guest who — a week ago — claimed to have
    > tripped and fell entering the Mustang Suite.  She has supposedly gone
    > to a chiropractor three times, and is threatening to sue us if we
    > don’t compensate her in some way.

    Ironically, of the two, Wayne and Garth were probably the least worrisome of
    them all.  (Can’t afford frivolous lawsuit attorneys.)

    -c

  16. admin says:

    > Ironically, of the two, Wayne and Garth were probably the least worrisome of
    > them all.  (Can’t afford frivolous lawsuit attorneys.)

    We’re not normally so rude with the college kids, but we had a meeting
    room full of pilots doing a seminar, and Mary wanted them *out* before
    Garth and Wayne could cause any trouble.

    We’ve learned to set a "tone" with kids that age, which is then
    communicated back to their group(s).  Our hotel was known as "Party
    Central" under its previous owners, and it took us several years to
    finally get the message to the frats and sororities that we are "off
    limits".

    Jay Honeck
    Iowa City, IA
    Pathfinder N56993
    http://www.AlexisParkInn.com
    "Your Aviation Destination"

  17. admin says:

    > For sitting at a counter and signing in a few guests?

    > Damn……..Righteous bucks.

    Well, I think so.  Funny thing is, the pay isn’t mentioned in the ad,
    so it has nothing to do with our recent lack of applicants.  We used
    to run the exact same ad, in years past, and get dozens of people
    applying.

    One problem we’ve discovered is that we have incrementally added
    services since we opened five years ago that make the job more than
    "sitting at the counter".    When you add these tasks a little at a
    time to a worker, over a period of years, they seem insignificant.
    When you’re training a new person from "zero", however, they can seem
    overwhelming.

    Things like knowing how to run the Kiwi flight simulator, for
    instance, can take more mental horsepower than some people are able to
    produce.  Between that, and delivering breakfast baskets to the proper
    suites, we’re discovering that there are a lot of people who simply
    can’t perform.

    Jay Honeck
    Iowa City, IA
    Pathfinder N56993
    http://www.AlexisParkInn.com
    "Your Aviation Destination"

  18. admin says:

    Jay Honeck writes:
    > > How much do you pay them?

    > Part-timers start at $8/hour plus commission.

    > Considering this is an entry-level position, in a town with 34,000
    > college students, I find it quite remarkable that we’re having so much
    > trouble finding good people….

    How much does an apartment cost per month in your town?  What about groceries
    for one person?

  19. admin says:

    Jay Honeck wrote:
    >> How much do you pay them?

    > Part-timers start at $8/hour plus commission.

    > Considering this is an entry-level position, in a town with 34,000
    > college students, I find it quite remarkable that we’re having so much
    > trouble finding good people….

    I don’t.

    Only because my company is in a college town
    and I have exactly the same problem.  And being
    in California, I’m offering about 25% more
    than you.

  20. admin says:

    Mxsmanic wrote:
    > Jay Honeck writes:

    >>> How much do you pay them?
    >> Part-timers start at $8/hour plus commission.

    >> Considering this is an entry-level position, in a town with 34,000
    >> college students, I find it quite remarkable that we’re having so much
    >> trouble finding good people….

    > How much does an apartment cost per month in your town?  What about groceries
    > for one person?

    Don’t worry.  I think it’s unlikely that Jay
    would hire you….

  21. admin says:

    > Part-timers start at $8/hour plus commission.
    > Considering this is an entry-level position, in a town with 34,000
    > college students, I find it quite remarkable that we’re having so much
    > trouble finding good people….

    There is a supermarket in my town (also a college town) that pays
    about twice as much per hour. They don’t have problems finding good
    employees, and it is a pleasure to shop there – even though they are
    not cheap.

    Bartek

  22. admin says:

    Mxsmanic <mxsma…@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:a3mkg3pio8r26ek6v327q75k2il22m0gfr@4ax.com:

    > Jay Honeck writes:

    >> > How much do you pay them?

    >> Part-timers start at $8/hour plus commission.

    >> Considering this is an entry-level position, in a town with 34,000
    >> college students, I find it quite remarkable that we’re having so
    >> much trouble finding good people….

    > How much does an apartment cost per month in your town?  What about
    > groceries for one person?

    What, getting evicted from your dumpster?

    Bertie

  23. admin says:

    Jim Stewart <jstew…@jkmicro.com> wrote in
    news:QK2dnY1oD5Q3xpfanZ2dnUVZ_urinZ2d@omsoft.com:

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > Mxsmanic wrote:
    >> Jay Honeck writes:

    >>>> How much do you pay them?
    >>> Part-timers start at $8/hour plus commission.

    >>> Considering this is an entry-level position, in a town with 34,000
    >>> college students, I find it quite remarkable that we’re having so
    >>> much trouble finding good people….

    >> How much does an apartment cost per month in your town?  What about
    >> groceries for one person?

    > Don’t worry.  I think it’s unlikely that Jay
    > would hire you….

    I think burger king is looking for a nighth manager.

    He might last a week before getting fired.

    Bertie

  24. admin says:

    Jay:

    Don’t tell him- he may want to move back to the States from France and live
    on the dole in Iowa City. That would be a quick way to ruin the town.
    Imagine Anthony attending the airport commision meetings?







Place your comment

You must be logged in to post a comment.