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"footyfun" <fo…@footy.fun.one> wrote…
> LIMA, Peru (AP) — A chartered jet carrying 289 Gambian soccer fans
> pretended it needed to make an emergency landing so they could watch
> their team compete in the FIFA Under 17 World Championships, officials
> said Wednesday.
> The plane, claiming to be low on fuel, landed Tuesday near the stadium
> in Peru’s northern coast city of Piura.
> "It truly was a scam," said Betty Maldonado, a spokeswoman for Peru’s
> aviation authority, CORPAC. "They tricked the control tower, saying
> they were low on fuel."
> Emergency crews were scrambled ahead of the unscheduled landing by the
> Lockhead L1011 Tri-Star, owned by Air Rum Ltd., Maldonado said.
> The Air Rum plane, which she said was chartered by Gambian President
> Yahya Jammeh, should have made its approach to the capital, Lima, but
> instead flew directly to Piura, entering Peruvian air space "without
> permission."
> The passengers were permitted to attend African team’s 3-1 victory
> over Qatar on Tuesday night, she added, but the plane remained in
> Piura on Wednesday while authorities determined what penalty, if any,
> to levy against the airline.
> Gambian newspaper Daily Observer reported on its Web page Wednesday
> that the group of fans had been delayed for a week in a hotel in the
> small West African nation and were forced Friday to watch their
> country’s victory over Brazil on television.
Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for
cases like that?
I’d hate to fly with a pilot who declared an emergency just so he could run
home to watch his football game. That calls for at least cancelling his
pilot license. Probably some jail time too.
Charles wrote:
> I’d hate to fly with a pilot who declared an emergency just so he could run
> home to watch his football game. That calls for at least cancelling his
> pilot license. Probably some jail time too.
Well, here in the States, it would probably get a suspension with possible job
loss. In Brazil, who knows? They may shoot ‘em down there.
George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won’t bother you for weeks.
George Patterson wrote:
> Well, here in the States, it would probably get a suspension with
> possible job loss. In Brazil, who knows? They may shoot ‘em down there.
I don’t know Brazil in particular, but in any other country
who understands football (i.e., called soccer in USA), I doubt
they’ll make a fuss about it (besides congratulating the crew
for its resourcefulness) :-)
–Sylvain
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Charles wrote:
> "footyfun" <fo…@footy.fun.one> wrote…
> > LIMA, Peru (AP) — A chartered jet carrying 289 Gambian soccer fans
> > pretended it needed to make an emergency landing so they could watch
> > their team compete in the FIFA Under 17 World Championships, officials
> > said Wednesday.
> > The plane, claiming to be low on fuel, landed Tuesday near the stadium
> > in Peru’s northern coast city of Piura.
> > "It truly was a scam," said Betty Maldonado, a spokeswoman for Peru’s
> > aviation authority, CORPAC. "They tricked the control tower, saying
> > they were low on fuel."
> > Emergency crews were scrambled ahead of the unscheduled landing by the
> > Lockhead L1011 Tri-Star, owned by Air Rum Ltd., Maldonado said.
> > The Air Rum plane, which she said was chartered by Gambian President
> > Yahya Jammeh, should have made its approach to the capital, Lima, but
> > instead flew directly to Piura, entering Peruvian air space "without
> > permission."
> > The passengers were permitted to attend African team’s 3-1 victory
> > over Qatar on Tuesday night, she added, but the plane remained in
> > Piura on Wednesday while authorities determined what penalty, if any,
> > to levy against the airline.
> > Gambian newspaper Daily Observer reported on its Web page Wednesday
> > that the group of fans had been delayed for a week in a hotel in the
> > small West African nation and were forced Friday to watch their
> > country’s victory over Brazil on television.
> Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for
> cases like that?
> I’d hate to fly with a pilot who declared an emergency just so he could run
> home to watch his football game. That calls for at least cancelling his
> pilot license. Probably some jail time too.
The airliner was chartered by the Gambian President. I’d say the
pilot was more worried about the repercussions of NOT declaring the
emergency.
deemsb…@aol.com wrote:
>> I’d hate to fly with a pilot who declared an emergency just so he could run
>> home to watch his football game. That calls for at least cancelling his
>> pilot license. Probably some jail time too.
> The airliner was chartered by the Gambian President. I’d say the
> pilot was more worried about the repercussions of NOT declaring the
> emergency.
Yes, I think you’re right. No doubt the Peruvians will flap their lips a little
while, then decide to let it go for the sake of international relations.
Nothing is going to happen to the flight crew except possible a pay raise on
their return to Gambia. After all, their flying credentials aren’t issued by
the Peruvians.
–
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschn…@carolina.rr.com.REMOVE
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:54:28 -0400, "Charles"
<bigbadst…@prodigy.sux> wrote in
<OulYe.208$0c3….@bignews5.bellsouth.net>::
>I’d hate to fly with a pilot who declared an emergency just so he could run
>home to watch his football game.
How would you feel about a pilot who _failed_ to declare an emergency,
and continued his transcontinental transatlantic flight with full fuel
and one engine shutdown?
March 1, 2005
By Eric Malnic and Hector Becerra, Times Staff Writers
Jet Flies On With One Engine Out
Despite LAX takeoff malfunction, British Airways pilot continues
nonstop trip to London. The 747 lands safely but short of its
destination.
A British Airways jumbo jet lost power in an engine on takeoff
from Los Angeles International Airport last month, but the pilot
elected not to make an emergency landing for repairs, deciding
instead to continue the 5,400-mile, transatlantic flight to London
on the remaining three engines, officials said Monday.
Because of unfavorable winds and inefficiencies resulting from the
engine loss, the Boeing 747-400 burned more fuel than anticipated,
and the pilot was forced to cut the nonstop flight short and land
in Manchester, England, the airline said. …
Sylvain wrote:
> George Patterson wrote:
>> Well, here in the States, it would probably get a suspension with
>> possible job loss. In Brazil, who knows? They may shoot ‘em down there.
> I don’t know Brazil in particular, but in any other country
> who understands football (i.e., called soccer in USA), I doubt
> they’ll make a fuss about it (besides congratulating the crew
> for its resourcefulness) :-)
> –Sylvain
The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to
investigate the situation.
Frank F. Matthews wrote:
> The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to
> investigate the situation.
You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks.
George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won’t bother you for weeks.
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Charles wrote:
> "footyfun" <fo…@footy.fun.one> wrote…
> > LIMA, Peru (AP) — A chartered jet carrying 289 Gambian soccer fans
> > pretended it needed to make an emergency landing so they could watch
> > their team compete in the FIFA Under 17 World Championships, officials
> > said Wednesday.
> > The plane, claiming to be low on fuel, landed Tuesday near the stadium
> > in Peru’s northern coast city of Piura.
> > "It truly was a scam," said Betty Maldonado, a spokeswoman for Peru’s
> > aviation authority, CORPAC. "They tricked the control tower, saying
> > they were low on fuel."
> > Emergency crews were scrambled ahead of the unscheduled landing by the
> > Lockhead L1011 Tri-Star, owned by Air Rum Ltd., Maldonado said.
> > The Air Rum plane, which she said was chartered by Gambian President
> > Yahya Jammeh, should have made its approach to the capital, Lima, but
> > instead flew directly to Piura, entering Peruvian air space "without
> > permission."
> > The passengers were permitted to attend African team’s 3-1 victory
> > over Qatar on Tuesday night, she added, but the plane remained in
> > Piura on Wednesday while authorities determined what penalty, if any,
> > to levy against the airline.
> > Gambian newspaper Daily Observer reported on its Web page Wednesday
> > that the group of fans had been delayed for a week in a hotel in the
> > small West African nation and were forced Friday to watch their
> > country’s victory over Brazil on television.
> Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for
> cases like that?
> I’d hate to fly with a pilot who declared an emergency just so he could run
> home to watch his football game. That calls for at least cancelling his
> pilot license. Probably some jail time too.
I heard of a case in Russia where some delayed businessmen were concerned about
missing a connecting flight.
They bribed the pilot to divert to the airport that their connecting flight was
departing from. Took a couple of hundred dollars IIRC.
Graham
George Patterson wrote:
> Frank F. Matthews wrote:
>> The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to
>> investigate the situation.
> You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks.
> George Patterson
> Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
> use the Internet and he won’t bother you for weeks.
That could well depend on the funds they have available. And how
cooperative the local hotels are. They are not in Lima.
"George Patterson" <grpph…@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:fDpYe.19961$Yu2.11527@trnddc02…
> Frank F. Matthews wrote:
>> The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to
>> investigate the situation.
> You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks.
Only if it’s just before Lent.
Charles wrote:
> Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for
> cases like that?
What regulation are they breaking? The PIC is final authority on
whether an emergency exists. Declaring a fake emergency might be
illegal under local laws, though, similar to what the prosecution would
be for pulling a fire alarm needlessly. The pilots’ employer might
discipline them. But the aviation authorities probably would not be
able to do anything.
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 03:34:35 GMT, George Patterson
<grpph…@verizon.net> wrote:
>Frank F. Matthews wrote:
>> The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to
>> investigate the situation.
>You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks.
>George Patterson
> Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
> use the Internet and he won’t bother you for weeks.
When did Brazil enter the debate?
LIMA, Peru (AP) —
<snip>
The plane, claiming to be low on fuel, landed Tuesday near
the stadium in Peru’s northern coast city of Piura.
<snip>
In fact, the last place any supporters of a team which beat
Brazil, fanatical about their football, is Brazil:
"Gambian newspaper Daily Observer reported on its Web page
Wednesday that the group of fans had been delayed for a week
in a hotel in the small West African nation and were forced
Friday to watch their country’s victory over Brazil on
television."
But, not a problem, they were in Peru.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
cjcampbell wrote:
> Charles wrote:
>>Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for
>>cases like that?
> What regulation are they breaking? The PIC is final authority on
> whether an emergency exists. Declaring a fake emergency might be
> illegal under local laws, though, similar to what the prosecution would
> be for pulling a fire alarm needlessly. The pilots’ employer might
> discipline them. But the aviation authorities probably would not be
> able to do anything.
I’ll wager that they could hold him around for a few months while they
‘investigated’ the incident. It could cut into his income.
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:54:28 -0400, "Charles"
<bigbadst…@prodigy.sux> wrote:
>Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for
>cases like that?
They force them to watch the EPL for a month.
(topical joke)
marmalade and peanut butter sandwiches (raisin bread) rocks