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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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  marmalade and peanut butter sandwiches (raisin bread) rocks &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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  On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:54:28 -0400, &quot;Charles&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;bigbadst...@prodigy.sux&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for &lt;br /&gt; &gt;cases like that? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;They force them to watch the EPL for a month. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(topical joke) &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:54:28 -0400, &quot;Charles&quot; <br /> 
<p>&lt;bigbadst&#8230;@prodigy.sux&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt;Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for <br /> &gt;cases like that? </p>
<p>They force them to watch the EPL for a month.  </p>
<p>(topical joke) </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;cjcampbell wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Charles wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;cases like that? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; What regulation are they breaking? The PIC is final authority on &lt;br /&gt; &gt; whether an emergency exists. Declaring a fake emergency might be &lt;br /&gt; &gt; illegal under local laws, though, similar to what the prosecution would &lt;br /&gt; &gt; be for pulling a fire alarm needlessly. The pilots&#039; employer might &lt;br /&gt; &gt; discipline them. But the aviation authorities probably would not be &lt;br /&gt; &gt; able to do anything. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ll wager that they could hold him around for a few months while they &lt;br /&gt; &#039;investigated&#039; the incident. &#160;It could cut into his income. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cjcampbell wrote: <br /> &gt; Charles wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for <br /> &gt;&gt;cases like that?  </p>
<p>&gt; What regulation are they breaking? The PIC is final authority on <br /> &gt; whether an emergency exists. Declaring a fake emergency might be <br /> &gt; illegal under local laws, though, similar to what the prosecution would <br /> &gt; be for pulling a fire alarm needlessly. The pilots&#8217; employer might <br /> &gt; discipline them. But the aviation authorities probably would not be <br /> &gt; able to do anything. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll wager that they could hold him around for a few months while they <br /> &#8216;investigated&#8217; the incident. &nbsp;It could cut into his income. </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;Charles wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for &lt;br /&gt; &gt; cases like that? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;What regulation are they breaking? The PIC is final authority on &lt;br /&gt; whether an emergency exists. Declaring a fake emergency might be &lt;br /&gt; illegal under local laws, though, similar to what the prosecution would &lt;br /&gt; be for pulling a fire alarm needlessly. The pilots&#039; employer might &lt;br /&gt; discipline them. But the aviation authorities probably would not be &lt;br /&gt; able to do anything. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt; Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for <br /> &gt; cases like that? </p>
<p>What regulation are they breaking? The PIC is final authority on <br /> whether an emergency exists. Declaring a fake emergency might be <br /> illegal under local laws, though, similar to what the prosecution would <br /> be for pulling a fire alarm needlessly. The pilots&#8217; employer might <br /> discipline them. But the aviation authorities probably would not be <br /> able to do anything. </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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  On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 03:34:35 GMT, George Patterson &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;grpph...@verizon.net&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Frank F. Matthews wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt; The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; investigate the situation. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;George Patterson &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;use the Internet and he won&#039;t bother you for weeks. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;When did Brazil enter the debate? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LIMA, Peru (AP) -- &lt;br /&gt; &lt;snip&gt; &lt;br /&gt; The plane, claiming to be low on fuel, landed Tuesday near &lt;br /&gt; the stadium in Peru&#039;s northern coast city of Piura. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;snip&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In fact, the last place any supporters of a team which beat &lt;br /&gt; Brazil, fanatical about their football, is Brazil: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;Gambian newspaper Daily Observer reported on its Web page &lt;br /&gt; Wednesday that the group of fans had been delayed for a week &lt;br /&gt; in a hotel in the small West African nation and were forced &lt;br /&gt; Friday to watch their country&#039;s victory over Brazil on &lt;br /&gt; television.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But, not a problem, they were in Peru. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cheers, Alan, Australia &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 03:34:35 GMT, George Patterson <br /> 
<p>&lt;grpph&#8230;@verizon.net&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt;Frank F. Matthews wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to <br /> &gt;&gt; investigate the situation.  </p>
<p>&gt;You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks.  </p>
<p>&gt;George Patterson <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;use the Internet and he won&#8217;t bother you for weeks. </p>
<p>When did Brazil enter the debate?  </p>
<p>LIMA, Peru (AP) &#8212; <br /> &lt;snip&gt; <br /> The plane, claiming to be low on fuel, landed Tuesday near <br /> the stadium in Peru&#8217;s northern coast city of Piura. <br /> &lt;snip&gt;  </p>
<p>In fact, the last place any supporters of a team which beat <br /> Brazil, fanatical about their football, is Brazil:  </p>
<p>&quot;Gambian newspaper Daily Observer reported on its Web page <br /> Wednesday that the group of fans had been delayed for a week <br /> in a hotel in the small West African nation and were forced <br /> Friday to watch their country&#8217;s victory over Brazil on <br /> television.&quot;  </p>
<p>But, not a problem, they were in Peru.  </p>
<p>Cheers, Alan, Australia </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;George Patterson wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Frank F. Matthews wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt; The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; investigate the situation. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; George Patterson &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;use the Internet and he won&#039;t bother you for weeks. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;That could well depend on the funds they have available. &#160;And how &lt;br /&gt; cooperative the local hotels are. &#160;They are not in Lima. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Patterson wrote: <br /> &gt; Frank F. Matthews wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to <br /> &gt;&gt; investigate the situation.  </p>
<p>&gt; You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks.  </p>
<p>&gt; George Patterson <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;use the Internet and he won&#8217;t bother you for weeks. </p>
<p>That could well depend on the funds they have available. &nbsp;And how <br /> cooperative the local hotels are. &nbsp;They are not in Lima. </p>
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  &lt;p&gt;&quot;George Patterson&quot; &lt;grpph...@verizon.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:fDpYe.19961$Yu2.11527@trnddc02... &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Frank F. Matthews wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt; The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; investigate the situation. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Only if it&#039;s just before Lent. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>news:fDpYe.19961$Yu2.11527@trnddc02&#8230; <br /> &gt; Frank F. Matthews wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to <br /> &gt;&gt; investigate the situation.  </p>
<p>&gt; You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks. </p>
<p>Only if it&#8217;s just before Lent. </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;Charles wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &quot;footyfun&quot; &lt;fo...@footy.fun.one&gt; wrote... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; LIMA, Peru (AP) -- A chartered jet carrying 289 Gambian soccer fans &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; pretended it needed to make an emergency landing so they could watch &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; their team compete in the FIFA Under 17 World Championships, officials &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; said Wednesday. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; The plane, claiming to be low on fuel, landed Tuesday near the stadium &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; in Peru&#039;s northern coast city of Piura. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; &quot;It truly was a scam,&quot; said Betty Maldonado, a spokeswoman for Peru&#039;s &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; aviation authority, CORPAC. &quot;They tricked the control tower, saying &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; they were low on fuel.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; Emergency crews were scrambled ahead of the unscheduled landing by the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; Lockhead L1011 Tri-Star, owned by Air Rum Ltd., Maldonado said. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; The Air Rum plane, which she said was chartered by Gambian President &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; Yahya Jammeh, should have made its approach to the capital, Lima, but &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; instead flew directly to Piura, entering Peruvian air space &quot;without &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; permission.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; The passengers were permitted to attend African team&#039;s 3-1 victory &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; over Qatar on Tuesday night, she added, but the plane remained in &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; Piura on Wednesday while authorities determined what penalty, if any, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; to levy against the airline. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; Gambian newspaper Daily Observer reported on its Web page Wednesday &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; that the group of fans had been delayed for a week in a hotel in the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; small West African nation and were forced Friday to watch their &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; country&#039;s victory over Brazil on television. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for &lt;br /&gt; &gt; cases like that? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I&#039;d hate to fly with a pilot who declared an emergency just so he could run &lt;br /&gt; &gt; home to watch his football game. &#160;That calls for at least cancelling his &lt;br /&gt; &gt; pilot license. &#160;Probably some jail time too. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I heard of a case in Russia where some delayed businessmen were concerned about &lt;br /&gt; missing a connecting flight. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They bribed the pilot to divert to the airport that their connecting flight was &lt;br /&gt; departing from. Took a couple of hundred dollars IIRC. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Graham &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>Charles wrote: <br /> &gt; &quot;footyfun&quot; &lt;fo&#8230;@footy.fun.one&gt; wrote&#8230; <br /> 
<p>&gt; &gt; LIMA, Peru (AP) &#8212; A chartered jet carrying 289 Gambian soccer fans <br /> &gt; &gt; pretended it needed to make an emergency landing so they could watch <br /> &gt; &gt; their team compete in the FIFA Under 17 World Championships, officials <br /> &gt; &gt; said Wednesday.  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; The plane, claiming to be low on fuel, landed Tuesday near the stadium <br /> &gt; &gt; in Peru&#8217;s northern coast city of Piura.  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; &quot;It truly was a scam,&quot; said Betty Maldonado, a spokeswoman for Peru&#8217;s <br /> &gt; &gt; aviation authority, CORPAC. &quot;They tricked the control tower, saying <br /> &gt; &gt; they were low on fuel.&quot;  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; Emergency crews were scrambled ahead of the unscheduled landing by the <br /> &gt; &gt; Lockhead L1011 Tri-Star, owned by Air Rum Ltd., Maldonado said.  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; The Air Rum plane, which she said was chartered by Gambian President <br /> &gt; &gt; Yahya Jammeh, should have made its approach to the capital, Lima, but <br /> &gt; &gt; instead flew directly to Piura, entering Peruvian air space &quot;without <br /> &gt; &gt; permission.&quot;  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; The passengers were permitted to attend African team&#8217;s 3-1 victory <br /> &gt; &gt; over Qatar on Tuesday night, she added, but the plane remained in <br /> &gt; &gt; Piura on Wednesday while authorities determined what penalty, if any, <br /> &gt; &gt; to levy against the airline.  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; Gambian newspaper Daily Observer reported on its Web page Wednesday <br /> &gt; &gt; that the group of fans had been delayed for a week in a hotel in the <br /> &gt; &gt; small West African nation and were forced Friday to watch their <br /> &gt; &gt; country&#8217;s victory over Brazil on television.  </p>
<p>&gt; Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for <br /> &gt; cases like that?  </p>
<p>&gt; I&#8217;d hate to fly with a pilot who declared an emergency just so he could run <br /> &gt; home to watch his football game. &nbsp;That calls for at least cancelling his <br /> &gt; pilot license. &nbsp;Probably some jail time too. </p>
<p>I heard of a case in Russia where some delayed businessmen were concerned about <br /> missing a connecting flight.  </p>
<p>They bribed the pilot to divert to the airport that their connecting flight was <br /> departing from. Took a couple of hundred dollars IIRC.  </p>
<p>Graham </p>
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  &lt;p&gt;Sylvain wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; George Patterson wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt; Well, here in the States, it would probably get a suspension with &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; possible job loss. In Brazil, who knows? They may shoot &#039;em down there. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I don&#039;t know Brazil in particular, &#160;but in any other country &lt;br /&gt; &gt; who understands football (i.e., &#160;called soccer in USA), &#160;I doubt &lt;br /&gt; &gt; they&#039;ll make a fuss about it (besides congratulating the crew &lt;br /&gt; &gt; for its resourcefulness) &#160;:-) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; --Sylvain &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to &lt;br /&gt; investigate the situation. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt;&gt; Well, here in the States, it would probably get a suspension with <br /> &gt;&gt; possible job loss. In Brazil, who knows? They may shoot &#8216;em down there.  </p>
<p>&gt; I don&#8217;t know Brazil in particular, &nbsp;but in any other country <br /> &gt; who understands football (i.e., &nbsp;called soccer in USA), &nbsp;I doubt <br /> &gt; they&#8217;ll make a fuss about it (besides congratulating the crew <br /> &gt; for its resourcefulness) &nbsp;:-)  </p>
<p>&gt; &#8211;Sylvain </p>
<p>The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to <br /> investigate the situation. </p>
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  &lt;p&gt;Frank F. Matthews wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to &lt;br /&gt; &gt; investigate the situation. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;George Patterson &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; use the Internet and he won&#039;t bother you for weeks. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks.  </p>
<p>George Patterson <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; use the Internet and he won&#8217;t bother you for weeks. </p>
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