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  &lt;p&gt;&quot;David J. Wallace&quot; &lt;D.Wall...@shef.ac.uk&gt; writes &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Andy Berry wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt; Is there such a thing as a military plane called an F-3? &#160; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;The UK has an airplane called the Tornado F-3, which they jokingly refer &lt;br /&gt; &gt;to as an air defence fighter. They have a couple at Pensacola, Elgin AFB? &lt;br /&gt; &gt;for weapons compatibility and development trials. Could be one of those. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;Look for a noisy and probably smoke emmiting gray VG airplane similar in &lt;br /&gt; &gt;size to an F-18 with about the same performace as a 172 with four aboard &lt;br /&gt; &gt;on a hot day. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Perhaps this is a discussion for a different news group? But anyway: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is *not* referred to as a fighter, but as an interceptor. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It was designed to lurk around for long periods, all weather, to the &lt;br /&gt; north and east of the U.K. killing long range soviet bombers and recce &lt;br /&gt; aircraft like the Bear and Backfire etc, not mixing it with Mig-29s over &lt;br /&gt; central Europe. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Personally, I&#039;d rather the MOD had bought something like F-14/Phoenix &lt;br /&gt; rather than developing the F3, but, hey, why buy something that works &lt;br /&gt; when you can throw loads of money away developing something else? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;O.K, on paper the latest generation fighters like the F-18 outperform &lt;br /&gt; the F-3, but when you consider that the F-3 replaced things like the &lt;br /&gt; Phantom and Lightning it was still a good step forward for the RAF. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now they have to wait for the Eurofighter, to get their air superiority &lt;br /&gt; fighter. Actually, I suspect that when the politicians talk about the &lt;br /&gt; collaborative project to build the Eurofighter, they literally mean &lt;br /&gt; *THE* Eurofighter. One of them. By the time the aeroplane is ready for &lt;br /&gt; service it will cost so much we&#039;ll only be able to afford one! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&#039;ll be based in each of the three countries for two days a week, and &lt;br /&gt; be available for air shows on sunday. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bill Chivers &lt;br /&gt; &#039;my other signature file has something funny at the bottom of it&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;David J. Wallace&quot; &lt;D.Wall&#8230;@shef.ac.uk&gt; writes <br /> &gt;Andy Berry wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; Is there such a thing as a military plane called an F-3? &nbsp;  </p>
<p>&gt;The UK has an airplane called the Tornado F-3, which they jokingly refer <br /> &gt;to as an air defence fighter. They have a couple at Pensacola, Elgin AFB? <br /> &gt;for weapons compatibility and development trials. Could be one of those.  </p>
<p>&gt;Look for a noisy and probably smoke emmiting gray VG airplane similar in <br /> &gt;size to an F-18 with about the same performace as a 172 with four aboard <br /> &gt;on a hot day. </p>
<p>Perhaps this is a discussion for a different news group? But anyway:  </p>
<p>It is *not* referred to as a fighter, but as an interceptor.  </p>
<p>It was designed to lurk around for long periods, all weather, to the <br /> north and east of the U.K. killing long range soviet bombers and recce <br /> aircraft like the Bear and Backfire etc, not mixing it with Mig-29s over <br /> central Europe.  </p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d rather the MOD had bought something like F-14/Phoenix <br /> rather than developing the F3, but, hey, why buy something that works <br /> when you can throw loads of money away developing something else?  </p>
<p>O.K, on paper the latest generation fighters like the F-18 outperform <br /> the F-3, but when you consider that the F-3 replaced things like the <br /> Phantom and Lightning it was still a good step forward for the RAF.  </p>
<p>Now they have to wait for the Eurofighter, to get their air superiority <br /> fighter. Actually, I suspect that when the politicians talk about the <br /> collaborative project to build the Eurofighter, they literally mean <br /> *THE* Eurofighter. One of them. By the time the aeroplane is ready for <br /> service it will cost so much we&#8217;ll only be able to afford one!  </p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be based in each of the three countries for two days a week, and <br /> be available for air shows on sunday.  </p>
<p>Bill Chivers <br /> &#8216;my other signature file has something funny at the bottom of it&#8217; </p>
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