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Safety at 141 school

HI:

If I’ve posted this to the wrong group, please forgive me and point me
in the right direction.

I am employed by a Part 141 flight school.  There is an employee here
(working as an AC dispatcher) that has been caught in numerous safety
violations.  Ususally, it’s assigning an AC to a student  while that AC
is currently under a "maintenance hold".  This of course has
potentailly disastrous consequences.

We have a computer system that helps protect against such mistakes from
happening, but this person is so "clueless" that it doesn’t matter.
They just keep making the same mistakes over and over.

I have brought this to the attention of senior management at the
school.  However, for some reason they seem reluctant to do anything
about the situation.

The person involved has numerous complaints against them from
instructors and students alike.  I am beginning to think I should get
the FAA involved before someone is hurt or killed. The safety
violations are documented, but only "unofficially".  I suspect that if
the FAA comes calling, my management will simply destroy any evidence
and claim there is no problem.

This person really needs to be fired for total incompetence, but if I
"blow the whistle", I can probably kiss my own job goodby.

Any thoughts/opinions??

Oop

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8 Responses to “Safety at 141 school”

  1. admin says:

    If you have it documented for CYA, if no one does anything, a call to
    the feds may be in order. Do you have any friends there (FAA)  you can
    call unofficially? Sticky situation but also one that needs to be
    addressed.
    Be looking for a new job just in case….it might be YOUR ass that is
    at risk on your next flight if thats the way they operate…..
    Been there and done that…..
    Ol Shy & Bashful

  2. admin says:

    Trying to change the school will be fruitless.  If you don’t like their
    practices, move on.   Eventually, word will spread and clients will
    disappear and you’ll be out of a job anyway.

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    oop_d…@hotmail.com wrote:
    > HI:

    > If I’ve posted this to the wrong group, please forgive me and point me
    > in the right direction.

    > I am employed by a Part 141 flight school.  There is an employee here
    > (working as an AC dispatcher) that has been caught in numerous safety
    > violations.  Ususally, it’s assigning an AC to a student  while that AC
    > is currently under a "maintenance hold".  This of course has
    > potentailly disastrous consequences.

    > We have a computer system that helps protect against such mistakes from
    > happening, but this person is so "clueless" that it doesn’t matter.
    > They just keep making the same mistakes over and over.

    > I have brought this to the attention of senior management at the
    > school.  However, for some reason they seem reluctant to do anything
    > about the situation.

    > The person involved has numerous complaints against them from
    > instructors and students alike.  I am beginning to think I should get
    > the FAA involved before someone is hurt or killed. The safety
    > violations are documented, but only "unofficially".  I suspect that if
    > the FAA comes calling, my management will simply destroy any evidence
    > and claim there is no problem.

    > This person really needs to be fired for total incompetence, but if I
    > "blow the whistle", I can probably kiss my own job goodby.

    > Any thoughts/opinions??

    > Oop

  3. admin says:

    In article <1121116625.517602.68…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

     oop_d…@hotmail.com wrote:
    > This person really needs to be fired for total incompetence, but if I
    > "blow the whistle", I can probably kiss my own job goodby.

    > Any thoughts/opinions??

    Do you really want to work for a flight school that jeopardizes safety?

    JKG

  4. admin says:

    Troll, troll, troll your boat
    Gently on the net
    Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily
    You will hook one yet.

    denny
    don’t feed the troll, guys!

  5. admin says:

    Thanks guys, for all the sensible, constructive responses.  What this
    ass**** is all about is beyond me, but I’ve noticed the NGs are full of
    nut cases.

    Regards

    Oop

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    Denny wrote:
    > Troll, troll, troll your boat
    > Gently on the net
    > Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily
    > You will hook one yet.

    > denny
    > don’t feed the troll, guys!

  6. admin says:

    Does the student actually fly the AC that is ‘under a maintenance hold’?
    What is a ‘maintenance hold’.  Sounds like it could be as simple as someone
    reported a problem with a radio.

    I know of a flight school that was shut down after they rented an
    ‘unairworthy’ plane. The owner felt the mechanic was being overly cautious.
    The feds felt otherwise.

    I suggest you find another job, and if you really feel they are dangerous,
    blow the whistle.

    <oop_d…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

    news:1121116625.517602.68030@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com…

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    > HI:

    > If I’ve posted this to the wrong group, please forgive me and point me
    > in the right direction.

    > I am employed by a Part 141 flight school.  There is an employee here
    > (working as an AC dispatcher) that has been caught in numerous safety
    > violations.  Ususally, it’s assigning an AC to a student  while that AC
    > is currently under a "maintenance hold".  This of course has
    > potentailly disastrous consequences.

    > We have a computer system that helps protect against such mistakes from
    > happening, but this person is so "clueless" that it doesn’t matter.
    > They just keep making the same mistakes over and over.

    > I have brought this to the attention of senior management at the
    > school.  However, for some reason they seem reluctant to do anything
    > about the situation.

    > The person involved has numerous complaints against them from
    > instructors and students alike.  I am beginning to think I should get
    > the FAA involved before someone is hurt or killed. The safety
    > violations are documented, but only "unofficially".  I suspect that if
    > the FAA comes calling, my management will simply destroy any evidence
    > and claim there is no problem.

    > This person really needs to be fired for total incompetence, but if I
    > "blow the whistle", I can probably kiss my own job goodby.

    > Any thoughts/opinions??

    > Oop

  7. admin says:

    On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:20:41 GMT, "Steve Foley"

    <steve.fo…@DELETEatt.net> wrote:
    >Does the student actually fly the AC that is ‘under a maintenance hold’?
    >What is a ‘maintenance hold’.  Sounds like it could be as simple as someone
    >reported a problem with a radio.

    Or one that’s grounded because it’s time for the 100hr.

  8. admin says:

    In article <7au9d192el2vepssg7abttd8jtt435c…@4ax.com>,
    Inva…@NotIn.YourLifetime.com.hatespam says…

    >Or one that’s grounded because it’s time for the 100hr.

    Or one that’s on hold because it’s within a few hours of its 100hr.

    If you really feel there is a dangerous situation, you can always write to
    the FAA – otherwise, you say that management has been informed of the
    situation, so you can consider that it’s in their hands, and you can get back
    to your own business.

    If I were your boss, and you came to me with that bad blood, I would
    seriously wonder about your motivation – and I would probably take a look at
    that worker’s practices. If you came to me a second time about it I would
    take a very close look at YOUR work habits, and probably start to consider a
    vacancy in your department.

    G Faris







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