To: Dave Maltz
Subject: Student Pilot fears — So
In Reply-To: ma…@ug.eds.com (Dave Maltz)
DM>>The most prevalent problem of flying in Southern Califorina is the
never- DM>>ending fear of traffic.
DM>I have 15 hours and fly out of Orange County (John Wayne).
DM>Running into somebody else also is my biggest fear.
DM>I guess we’ll just have to be vigilant and accept the risk until GPS
DM>collision avoidance systems are widely available (see August Plane & Pilot).
I would never rely on a magic box for collision avoidance. Your eyes and
a good traffic scan is your best defense.
Scott MacLean Artificial Horizons BBS
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Hello Guys,
This is Attila from Istanbul-Turkey. I’ve been flying with GPS since
their invention.
-> DM>I guess we’ll just have to be vigilant and accept the risk until
-> GPS DM>collision avoidance systems are widely available (see August
-> Plane &
As far as I know there is two dicipline and regulations for flying. It’s
IFR and VFR if your mention is VFR flying, The GPS has nothing to do for
collusion avoidance. It is such a wonderful instrument for navigation
both in IFR and VFR. Am I missing something which I don’t know.No doubt
that all Navigational systems has seperation functions built in. But for
VFR flying, it’s your eyes, scan technics, communication, and restricted
atmospheric conditions is your elements to avoid collusion.
In Turkey I’m using the GPS as my primary navigational instrument. It
never dropped a bit since three years. Still while flying IFR, I never
turn off my VOR,ILS,DME even my old ADF. They are allways in my old
scanning habit. So I feel safe.
Attila Ozdemiroglu
PA31P
Istanbul Turkey
In article <295.206.116.0N22C…@anadolu.net>, 70…@anadolu.net (70003) writes:
> Hello Guys,
> This is Attila from Istanbul-Turkey. I’ve been flying with GPS since
> their invention.
> -> DM>I guess we’ll just have to be vigilant and accept the risk until
> -> GPS DM>collision avoidance systems are widely available (see August
> -> Plane &
> As far as I know there is two dicipline and regulations for flying. It’s
> IFR and VFR if your mention is VFR flying, The GPS has nothing to do for
> collusion avoidance. …
I didn’t read that mag, but GPS has been frequently proposed as a new form
of TCAS (or supplement). In addition to broadcasting a Mode C/S return that
would indicate altitude, and leave inference of position to the receiver’s
equipment either from regular ranging equipment or just strength measurement
(as cheap versions do), the signal would have very precise position information
from the GPS. This vastly cheapens the equipment in the receiving plane
since receiving encoded altitude and position requires simple stuff
whereas actually locating a radar signal independently is very expensive.
In other words, it has the potential to bring TCAS II type systems into
the affordable range for GA planes. Of course, to be really effective it
requires all planes to have not only GPS but the ability to transmit their
GPS positions. TCAS systems now cost more than my Arrow, so I am unlikely
to have them (TCAD? or whatever the versions are they do not try to determine
direction and only estimate distance are much cheaper but less useful).
Of course, the things to fear as a student pilot are not fixed by such
technology, they are made worse. Learning to see and avoid with your eyeballs
has to come long before *supplementing* it with things like TCAS, and the
day you decide to replace it (when VMC) you should tear up your license.
- Linwood
Fergu…@eisner.decus.org
But for
VFR flying, it’s your eyes, scan technics, communication, and restricted
atmospheric conditions is your elements to avoid collusion.
Having a system that’s providing GPS position reports of other aircraft
falls under "communication" right?
-Ron