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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;John R. Johnson &lt;j...@siu.edu&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;you can instantly tell whether a pilot was airforce trained or navy trained. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;in the old, politically incorrect pre-tailhook scandal days, navy &lt;br /&gt; pilots used to have a saying: &quot;flare to land, squat to pee&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; #include &lt;std.disclaimer&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John R. Johnson &lt;j&#8230;@siu.edu&gt; wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt;you can instantly tell whether a pilot was airforce trained or navy trained. </p>
<p>in the old, politically incorrect pre-tailhook scandal days, navy <br /> pilots used to have a saying: &quot;flare to land, squat to pee&quot;  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> #include &lt;std.disclaimer&gt; </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know about that vertical speed for carrier landings. &#160;I do &lt;br /&gt; know that you can instantly tell whether a pilot was airforce trained &lt;br /&gt; or navy trained. &#160;Navy pilots tend to come down final with absolute &lt;br /&gt; MINIMUM airspeed, wallowing just above a stall and plunk solidly on &lt;br /&gt; the VERY END of the runway. &#160;Rollout is close to nil. &lt;br /&gt; Airforce pilots fly a long flat final with power and drive it onto the &lt;br /&gt; runway with excess speed. &#160;Long roll outs. &#160;It is a difference in the &lt;br /&gt; philosophy of the two services! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;John &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On 28 May 1996, Wwplummer wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt; In article &lt;4oan64$...@qnx.com&gt;, ab...@qnx.com (Andrew Boyd) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt;#3) &quot;Hold it off, hold it off&quot; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;[during carrier-style landing] &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Yup, he says that, but not on carrier-style landings. &#160;As I understand it, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; when &#160;you land on a carrier, it is with a verticle speed of 14 ft/sec (840 &lt;br /&gt; &gt; ft/min). &#160;My instructor used to get real upset when I would do that! &lt;br /&gt; &gt; --Bill &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; _________________________________________________________________________ &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Wm W. Plummer, 7 Country Club D., Chelmsford MA &#160;01824 &#160;508-256-9570 &lt;br /&gt; &gt; PP-ASEL,G &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about that vertical speed for carrier landings. &nbsp;I do <br /> know that you can instantly tell whether a pilot was airforce trained <br /> or navy trained. &nbsp;Navy pilots tend to come down final with absolute <br /> MINIMUM airspeed, wallowing just above a stall and plunk solidly on <br /> the VERY END of the runway. &nbsp;Rollout is close to nil. <br /> Airforce pilots fly a long flat final with power and drive it onto the <br /> runway with excess speed. &nbsp;Long roll outs. &nbsp;It is a difference in the <br /> philosophy of the two services!  </p>
<p>John  </p>
<p>On 28 May 1996, Wwplummer wrote:  </p>
<p>- Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -</p>
<p>&gt; In article &lt;4oan64$&#8230;@qnx.com&gt;, <a href="mailto:ab...@qnx.com">ab&#8230;@qnx.com</a> (Andrew Boyd) writes: <br /> 
<p>&gt; &gt;#3) &quot;Hold it off, hold it off&quot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;[during carrier-style landing]  </p>
<p>&gt; Yup, he says that, but not on carrier-style landings. &nbsp;As I understand it, <br /> &gt; when &nbsp;you land on a carrier, it is with a verticle speed of 14 ft/sec (840 <br /> &gt; ft/min). &nbsp;My instructor used to get real upset when I would do that! <br /> &gt; &#8211;Bill  </p>
<p>&gt; _________________________________________________________________________ <br /> &gt; Wm W. Plummer, 7 Country Club D., Chelmsford MA &nbsp;01824 &nbsp;508-256-9570 <br /> &gt; PP-ASEL,G </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;Bart van Haarlem &#160;&lt;bar...@xs4all.nl&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&quot;things that instructors say&quot;? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;#1) &quot;Right rudder, more right rudder&quot; &#160; [during takeoff], and &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#2) &quot;Add power, add power&quot; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;[during low and slow approach] &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#3) &quot;Hold it off, hold it off&quot; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;[during carrier-style landing] &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#4) &quot;I have control&quot; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;[near-collision or dive-bombing] &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; #include &lt;std.disclaimer&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bart van Haarlem &nbsp;&lt;bar&#8230;@xs4all.nl&gt; wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt;&quot;things that instructors say&quot;? </p>
<p>#1) &quot;Right rudder, more right rudder&quot; &nbsp; [during takeoff], and  </p>
<p>#2) &quot;Add power, add power&quot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;[during low and slow approach]  </p>
<p>#3) &quot;Hold it off, hold it off&quot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;[during carrier-style landing]  </p>
<p>#4) &quot;I have control&quot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;[near-collision or dive-bombing]  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> #include &lt;std.disclaimer&gt; </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;4oan64$...@qnx.com&gt;, ab...@qnx.com (Andrew Boyd) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;#3) &quot;Hold it off, hold it off&quot; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;[during carrier-style landing] &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Yup, he says that, but not on carrier-style landings. &#160;As I understand it, &lt;br /&gt; when &#160;you land on a carrier, it is with a verticle speed of 14 ft/sec (840 &lt;br /&gt; ft/min). &#160;My instructor used to get real upset when I would do that! &lt;br /&gt; --Bill &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;_________________________________________________________________________ &lt;br /&gt; Wm W. Plummer, 7 Country Club D., Chelmsford MA &#160;01824 &#160;508-256-9570 &lt;br /&gt; PP-ASEL,G &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;4oan64$&#8230;@qnx.com&gt;, <a href="mailto:ab...@qnx.com">ab&#8230;@qnx.com</a> (Andrew Boyd) writes: <br /> &gt;#3) &quot;Hold it off, hold it off&quot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;[during carrier-style landing] </p>
<p>Yup, he says that, but not on carrier-style landings. &nbsp;As I understand it, <br /> when &nbsp;you land on a carrier, it is with a verticle speed of 14 ft/sec (840 <br /> ft/min). &nbsp;My instructor used to get real upset when I would do that! <br /> &#8211;Bill  </p>
<p>_________________________________________________________________________ <br /> Wm W. Plummer, 7 Country Club D., Chelmsford MA &nbsp;01824 &nbsp;508-256-9570 <br /> PP-ASEL,G </p>
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