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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;31bps8$...@search01.news.aol.com&gt; mike...@aol.com &lt;br /&gt; (MikeCaz) writes concerning my problem in selecting a VOR by ID: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;Maybe limiting your database&#039;s &quot;Search Region&quot; to United States only (in &lt;br /&gt; &gt;setup) will fix that, assuming the two duplicate ID&#039;s were not both in the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;U.S. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;This sounds like a much-needed improvement put into the Flightmate Pro that &lt;br /&gt; my basic Flightmate does not have. &#160;Is that correct? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chris Floyd &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;31bps8$&#8230;@search01.news.aol.com&gt; <a href="mailto:mike...@aol.com">mike&#8230;@aol.com</a> <br /> (MikeCaz) writes concerning my problem in selecting a VOR by ID: <br /> 
<p>&gt;Maybe limiting your database&#8217;s &quot;Search Region&quot; to United States only (in <br /> &gt;setup) will fix that, assuming the two duplicate ID&#8217;s were not both in the <br /> &gt;U.S. </p>
<p>This sounds like a much-needed improvement put into the Flightmate Pro that <br /> my basic Flightmate does not have. &nbsp;Is that correct?  </p>
<p>Chris Floyd </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.foraviators.info/trimble-flite-mate/comment-page-1#comment-1178</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;chrisf.193.2E391...@mitre.org&gt;, chr...@mitre.org (Chris Floyd) &lt;br /&gt; writes: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt; A real annoyance and potential danger is the painfully slow sequencing &lt;br /&gt; &gt; through the database, particularly for VORs for some reason. &#160;The first &lt;br /&gt; bad &lt;br /&gt; &gt; experience I had with that was on my instrument long cross-country. &#160;I &lt;br /&gt; was &lt;br /&gt; &gt; flying direct to the Madison (CT) VOR in IMC, using conventional &lt;br /&gt; &gt; navigation. &#160;Wanting to impress my instructor with the accuracy of GPS, &lt;br /&gt; I &lt;br /&gt; &gt; selected the SET TO command, carefully sequenced and cursored M-A-D into &lt;br /&gt; the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;unit, and pressed the entry key. &#160;To my shock, the unit showed the VOR as &lt;br /&gt; &gt; being south while my VOR receiver CDI was centered on east. &#160;I got so &lt;br /&gt; &gt; distracted by this that my heading drifted off by 30 degrees. &#160;Then I &lt;br /&gt; &gt; noticed that the distance to the database VOR was several thousand &lt;br /&gt; miles. &#160;I &lt;br /&gt; &gt; shut the damn thing off! &#160;Back on the ground I discovered that there &lt;br /&gt; were &lt;br /&gt; &gt; two other MAD VORs in the world, and of course the one I wanted came up &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;last! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;Maybe limiting your database&#039;s &quot;Search Region&quot; to United States only (in &lt;br /&gt; setup) will fix that, assuming the two duplicate ID&#039;s were not both in the &lt;br /&gt; U.S. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;--Mike &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;chrisf.193.2E391&#8230;@mitre.org&gt;, <a href="mailto:chr...@mitre.org">chr&#8230;@mitre.org</a> (Chris Floyd) <br /> writes: <br /> 
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<p>&gt; A real annoyance and potential danger is the painfully slow sequencing <br /> &gt; through the database, particularly for VORs for some reason. &nbsp;The first <br /> bad <br /> &gt; experience I had with that was on my instrument long cross-country. &nbsp;I <br /> was <br /> &gt; flying direct to the Madison (CT) VOR in IMC, using conventional <br /> &gt; navigation. &nbsp;Wanting to impress my instructor with the accuracy of GPS, <br /> I <br /> &gt; selected the SET TO command, carefully sequenced and cursored M-A-D into <br /> the <br /> &gt;unit, and pressed the entry key. &nbsp;To my shock, the unit showed the VOR as <br /> &gt; being south while my VOR receiver CDI was centered on east. &nbsp;I got so <br /> &gt; distracted by this that my heading drifted off by 30 degrees. &nbsp;Then I <br /> &gt; noticed that the distance to the database VOR was several thousand <br /> miles. &nbsp;I <br /> &gt; shut the damn thing off! &nbsp;Back on the ground I discovered that there <br /> were <br /> &gt; two other MAD VORs in the world, and of course the one I wanted came up </p>
<p>last! <br /> 
<p>Maybe limiting your database&#8217;s &quot;Search Region&quot; to United States only (in <br /> setup) will fix that, assuming the two duplicate ID&#8217;s were not both in the <br /> U.S.  </p>
<p>&#8211;Mike </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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  : &lt;br /&gt; I also ran into the problem of multible VORs with the same id. I thought it was &lt;br /&gt; a bug in the data base so I called Trimble. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;It turns out there is better way of getting to the actual VOR. I don&#039;t have my &lt;br /&gt; GPS anymore so I&#039;m a little rusty on the procedure but it goes something like: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; 1) Select the VOR that you want &lt;br /&gt; &#160; 2) If the selection is not what you expected move the cursor to the &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;right past the last letter in the identifier &lt;br /&gt; &#160; 3) Select the up or down arrow until you get the correct VOR. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;John &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>: <br /> I also ran into the problem of multible VORs with the same id. I thought it was <br /> a bug in the data base so I called Trimble. <br /> 
<p>It turns out there is better way of getting to the actual VOR. I don&#8217;t have my <br /> GPS anymore so I&#8217;m a little rusty on the procedure but it goes something like:  </p>
<p>&nbsp; 1) Select the VOR that you want <br /> &nbsp; 2) If the selection is not what you expected move the cursor to the <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;right past the last letter in the identifier <br /> &nbsp; 3) Select the up or down arrow until you get the correct VOR.  </p>
<p>John </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;3171bl$...@search01.news.aol.com&gt; brucew5...@aol.com (BruceW5540) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;From: brucew5...@aol.com (BruceW5540) &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Subject: Trimble-flite mate &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Date: 27 Jul 1994 21:24:05 -0400 &lt;br /&gt; &gt;I am considering buying a plane with the Trimble Flight mate GPS in it. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Are these &lt;br /&gt; &gt;reliable. &#160;Hard to use? etc. &#160;Any insight from Flite-mate owners would be &lt;br /&gt; &gt;aprreciated. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I fly with one and find it very useful. &#160;Having an accurate ground track &lt;br /&gt; readout (ground speed and course) is alone worth the price of such a unit, &lt;br /&gt; especially for flying IFR. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Except for a problem with bounce in the Direct To key (see below), I have &lt;br /&gt; never had the slightest glitch from our unit. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, expect a significant learning curve for the manual inputs. &#160;Read &lt;br /&gt; the manual thoroughly (Trimble will send you one for free) and practice the &lt;br /&gt; entry protocols over and over. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A real annoyance and potential danger is the painfully slow sequencing &lt;br /&gt; through the database, particularly for VORs for some reason. &#160;The first bad &lt;br /&gt; experience I had with that was on my instrument long cross-country. &#160;I was &lt;br /&gt; flying direct to the Madison (CT) VOR in IMC, using conventional &lt;br /&gt; navigation. &#160;Wanting to impress my instructor with the accuracy of GPS, I &lt;br /&gt; selected the SET TO command, carefully sequenced and cursored M-A-D into the &lt;br /&gt; unit, and pressed the entry key. &#160;To my shock, the unit showed the VOR as &lt;br /&gt; being south while my VOR receiver CDI was centered on east. &#160;I got so &lt;br /&gt; distracted by this that my heading drifted off by 30 degrees. &#160;Then I &lt;br /&gt; noticed that the distance to the database VOR was several thousand miles. &#160;I &lt;br /&gt; shut the damn thing off! &#160;Back on the ground I discovered that there were &lt;br /&gt; two other MAD VORs in the world, and of course the one I wanted came up last! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I can sometimes work around this problem by using the NEAREST mode to get &lt;br /&gt; just the ten nearest fixes to sequence through. &#160;It&#039;s tempting then to press &lt;br /&gt; the Direct To key, but I&#039;ve had that key bounce on me, turning my intended &lt;br /&gt; action into double-click Save Current Position. &#160;It seems to happen at the &lt;br /&gt; most stressful times. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Another workaround is to copy all the VOR and airport fixes you will use &lt;br /&gt; into your user database (100 fixes). &#160;The offset and modify functions under &lt;br /&gt; WAYPOINT facilitate making entries for intersections and NDBs. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Again, the unit is worthwhile alone for the ground track information. &#160;It &lt;br /&gt; should be rated a definite plus in your buying decision. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chris Floyd &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;3171bl$&#8230;@search01.news.aol.com&gt; <a href="mailto:brucew5...@aol.com">brucew5&#8230;@aol.com</a> (BruceW5540) writes: <br /> &gt;From: <a href="mailto:brucew5...@aol.com">brucew5&#8230;@aol.com</a> (BruceW5540) <br /> &gt;Subject: Trimble-flite mate <br /> &gt;Date: 27 Jul 1994 21:24:05 -0400 <br /> &gt;I am considering buying a plane with the Trimble Flight mate GPS in it. <br /> &gt;Are these <br /> &gt;reliable. &nbsp;Hard to use? etc. &nbsp;Any insight from Flite-mate owners would be <br /> &gt;aprreciated. </p>
<p>I fly with one and find it very useful. &nbsp;Having an accurate ground track <br /> readout (ground speed and course) is alone worth the price of such a unit, <br /> especially for flying IFR.  </p>
<p>Except for a problem with bounce in the Direct To key (see below), I have <br /> never had the slightest glitch from our unit.  </p>
<p>However, expect a significant learning curve for the manual inputs. &nbsp;Read <br /> the manual thoroughly (Trimble will send you one for free) and practice the <br /> entry protocols over and over.  </p>
<p>A real annoyance and potential danger is the painfully slow sequencing <br /> through the database, particularly for VORs for some reason. &nbsp;The first bad <br /> experience I had with that was on my instrument long cross-country. &nbsp;I was <br /> flying direct to the Madison (CT) VOR in IMC, using conventional <br /> navigation. &nbsp;Wanting to impress my instructor with the accuracy of GPS, I <br /> selected the SET TO command, carefully sequenced and cursored M-A-D into the <br /> unit, and pressed the entry key. &nbsp;To my shock, the unit showed the VOR as <br /> being south while my VOR receiver CDI was centered on east. &nbsp;I got so <br /> distracted by this that my heading drifted off by 30 degrees. &nbsp;Then I <br /> noticed that the distance to the database VOR was several thousand miles. &nbsp;I <br /> shut the damn thing off! &nbsp;Back on the ground I discovered that there were <br /> two other MAD VORs in the world, and of course the one I wanted came up last!  </p>
<p>I can sometimes work around this problem by using the NEAREST mode to get <br /> just the ten nearest fixes to sequence through. &nbsp;It&#8217;s tempting then to press <br /> the Direct To key, but I&#8217;ve had that key bounce on me, turning my intended <br /> action into double-click Save Current Position. &nbsp;It seems to happen at the <br /> most stressful times.  </p>
<p>Another workaround is to copy all the VOR and airport fixes you will use <br /> into your user database (100 fixes). &nbsp;The offset and modify functions under <br /> WAYPOINT facilitate making entries for intersections and NDBs.  </p>
<p>Again, the unit is worthwhile alone for the ground track information. &nbsp;It <br /> should be rated a definite plus in your buying decision.  </p>
<p>Chris Floyd </p>
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