I was living in USA for some wonderful years. When I arrived, I got a US
glider license by FAA, which is valid as long as my Norwegian license is
valid. During the stay I got a US PPL. Back in Norway I tried to do it
the opposite way with the PPL. So far, I have not succeeded. A lot is
going on with European Aviation Regulations at the moment. Does anybody
know how other European nations treat pilots with US PPL, and if there
excists a coordination between FAA and Europe, that makes it easy to
change a US PPL to a JAR-FLC equivalent?
Arne Wangsholm
ber…@saterdal.bhg.hl.no
I’ve not been living in the US pity enough, but these are my experiences.
I’ve got a Dutch PPL and went to the states and got on basis of that an US
PPL based on my Dutch licence. In the US I did my Instrument test and
passed. Now the funny thing is that I got a restricted PPL with a US passed
Instrument. Back in the Netherlands there is no way you can get the Dutch
instrument license based on your US passed license. The only way is to make
first after your test 500 hours, do a IF flight check and then you will get
your license. The same thing goes for Belgium as far as I know.
I know the situation between the FAA and the europeans is at the moment not
as it should and the US are quit easy on changing a license so you are able
to fly US registered planes. In europe they are not that easy. It is even
so that officially I’m not allowed to fly IF over the Netherlands in a US
registered plane. In the rest of europe I can fly IF and VF in a US
registered plane with no problems.
It is really crazy with these license rules here in europe.
Erald de Hoog
Berit Wangsholm <ber…@gudmund.vgs.no> wrote in article
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> I was living in USA for some wonderful years. When I arrived, I got a US
> glider license by FAA, which is valid as long as my Norwegian license is
> valid. During the stay I got a US PPL. Back in Norway I tried to do it
> the opposite way with the PPL. So far, I have not succeeded. A lot is
> going on with European Aviation Regulations at the moment. Does anybody
> know how other European nations treat pilots with US PPL, and if there
> excists a coordination between FAA and Europe, that makes it easy to
> change a US PPL to a JAR-FLC equivalent?
> Arne Wangsholm
> ber…@saterdal.bhg.hl.no
Yuval Stein <yu…@iet.co.il> wrote:
>In Israel I had to “validate” my US PPL – meaning pass
>regulation written test, radio telegraph test and top it with
>a practical test.
>Yuval Stein
> _|_
> ______(.)______
Heh, basically do the whole private pilot certification course over..
Rob PP-ASEL
"What’s ICAO?"
In Israel I had to “validate” my US PPL – meaning pass
regulation written test, radio telegraph test and top it with
a practical test.
Yuval Stein
_|_
______(.)______
In article <4v2n5l$…@ole.uninett.no>, Berit Wangsholm
<ber…@gudmund.vgs.no> writes
>I was living in USA for some wonderful years. When I arrived, I got a US
>glider license by FAA, which is valid as long as my Norwegian license is
>valid. During the stay I got a US PPL. Back in Norway I tried to do it
>the opposite way with the PPL. So far, I have not succeeded. A lot is
>going on with European Aviation Regulations at the moment. Does anybody
>know how other European nations treat pilots with US PPL, and if there
>excists a coordination between FAA and Europe, that makes it easy to
>change a US PPL to a JAR-FLC equivalent?
>Arne Wangsholm
>ber…@saterdal.bhg.hl.no
Arne
I was in a conversation at the local flying school here in the UK, where
a USA PPL pilot wated to fly in the UK. This is what I heard…
The USA PPL Pilot could fly in the UK on his existing licence providing
certain criteria were met.
There are three points to consider
country of registration of aircraft
country in which the aircraft is being operated
country in which the holders PPL was issued.
Prividing any 2 of three were same, then it is legal for the pilot to
fly.
eg if operating/renting a UK registered plane in UK, then USA issued PPL
is OK. It would not be legal for the pilot to fly the plane into another
country.
Our flying school would require a check ride before letting him go off
sosl with a club plane, regardless of experience on log book. This gives
oportunity to point out major differences between USA & UK (eg "mercury
vs millibars, use of QFE at airfields).
Upgrading the USA PPL to a UK PPL was also discussed. One mandatory
point is passing the air law written exam. I think there is also a
requirement to fly Pu/t for a few hours.
–
Glynne Rees
I have a US SEL PPL, can I fly in Holland, if so, where can I rent a C172
or PA 28?
RRKAS…@AOL.COM
> Upgrading the USA PPL to a UK PPL was also discussed. One mandatory
I think the word you were looking for is "converting"!!
David.
RRKASSOC wrote:
> I have a US SEL PPL, can I fly in Holland, if so, where can I rent a C172
> or PA 28?
> RRKAS…@AOL.COMYes, you can, when the plane is PH registered only in dutch airspace,
the second option is using N registered, also widely available (you will
almost allways have to take a checkride with or on behalf of the owner)
Places to go : EHLE (best place ‘Vliegend museum’) for N-reg
All other airfields for the rest
Aad van der Kooij (avdko…@iri.tudelft.nl)
djtay…@cix.compulink.co.uk ("David Taylor") wrote:
>> Upgrading the USA PPL to a UK PPL was also discussed. One mandatory
>I think the word you were looking for is "converting"!!
Or "downgrading".
RRKASSOC <rrkas…@aol.com> wrote in article
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> I have a US SEL PPL, can I fly in Holland, if so, where can I rent a C172
> or PA 28?
Yup, you can fly in Holland (after a check-ride of course) with your PPL in
a PH-registered aircraft (Dutch, that is), providing you:
– do not stay permanently in the Netherlands
– will fly VFR only
– will satisfy the conditions of your license, and
– fly and aircraft that is certified for single-pilot operations.
Renting planes like C172, AG 5B Tigers, PA 28 is possible at most
airfields. You might want to rent with Martin Air or Wings over Holland,
both at Lelystad airport. Do bring a lot more money than you would in the
US of A !
> >I think the word you were looking for is "converting"!!
> Or "downgrading".
No I *think* I was right! What makes you hold that opinion? I’m curious.
Cheers
David.
Yuval Stein wrote:
> In Israel I had to “validate” my US PPL – meaning pass
> regulation written test, radio telegraph test and top it with
> a practical test.
> Yuval Stein
> _|_
> ______(.)______Have to hand to the US FAA bods… My UK PPL handed over for a Mk1
eyeball (with passport) and 15 mins later (at no cost) I have my US
chitty.
There cant be any way the CAA would let that happen in the UK.
The FAA even sent me a ‘pucker’ slip a few weeks later via airmail.
Magic service!
In article <32252997.3…@nowhere.com>, "bogus.bod"
<bogus….@nowhere.com> writes
>eyeball (with passport) and 15 mins later (at no cost) I have my US
>chitty.
>There cant be any way the CAA would let that happen in the UK.
>The FAA even sent me a ‘pucker’ slip a few weeks later via airmail.
>Magic service!
According to my CFI, there are 3 factors in UK for foreign ticketed
pilots.
Country of issue of pilot’s license
Country of registration of plane flown
Country in which plane is operating.
Any 2 must be same country to fly legally.
eg US licensed pilot can hire a plane in UK and fly it in UK legally
eg US licensed pilot hiring a UK registered plane in UK cannot legally
fly to France.
USA pilot has to take the air law written and some other stuff to get a
UK PPL.
Thats all I know….
–
Glynne