Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our
own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three.
He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout.
I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there.
My father flew A-7s for the Navy but died in a training accident when I
was around 10.
-Robert
My father was an instructor in the AAF (Army Airforce?) in the early
parts of WWII in California. Growing up we were never around planes
other than the stories he told of the cadets. My first ride was at a
resort in a float plane when I was a kid. I also found out that my
mother was a pilot; I found her certificate when I was cleaning out the
house after my father passed away a few years ago. I have all of my
father’s original log books from the CPT days in Arkansas and into the
service. I surprised my father when I showed up in a plane and gave him
a ride after I got my certificate. He was ecstatic that I could fly.
Actually, he thought my new wife had the certificate at first. That was
35 years and 1000+ hours ago. Wow time goes by….
————-
Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
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john smith wrote:
> Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
> My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our
> own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three.
> He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout.
> I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there.
My father had his private pilot certificate, and took me up for my
first flight when I was two weeks old! I can’t say for sure that is
when the seed was planted, but I do recall flying around 4 or 5 and him
letting me take the controls…
He no longer flies, but is darn excited about me being a pilot and an
owner! He always wanted to own a plane!
Best Regards,
Todd
None, of my immediate family flew airplanes but my grandmothers brother was
a crop duster and was paralyzed in an accident while crop dusting in a new
airplane.
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> Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
> My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our
> own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three.
> He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout.
> I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there.
My older brother started it, and about 5 years later I got my Private.
Fifteen years later my Dad retired and bought property on a lake and
adjoining an airstrip with an active EAA chapter(44TE). He decided to
get his license. So I guess you could say it trickled down from child
to parent
–
Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ
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> Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
This topic has revealed a fact that I have not thought of before: I may be
the only person in our family that has held a pilot’s certificate. There may
have been some members that flew during wartime, but I am not aware of them.
Even so, I don’t recall any member of my family, mother or father’s side
that flew airplanes privately.
Talk about bucking the trend!
-Trent
PP-ASEL, trendsetter.
Trent Moorehead <twmoorehead_nosp…@netzero.net> wrote:
> This topic has revealed a fact that I have not thought of before: I may be
> the only person in our family that has held a pilot’s certificate. There may
> have been some members that flew during wartime, but I am not aware of them.
> Even so, I don’t recall any member of my family, mother or father’s side
> that flew airplanes privately.
> Talk about bucking the trend!
The same is true for me, except that I am positive that none of my
relatives flew during either of the WW’s.
–
Peter
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I just earned my PP-ASEL on Aug 27, about 17-18 years after my first
and started shopping around for an
lesson. My Dad has been a pilot since before I was born (in 1973) and
has been a CFI/CFII for both ASEL and AMEL for as long as I can
remember. In the mid-to-late 80′s (87 or so), he taught my Mom how to
fly in 31 days. I know this because another instructor in the flying
club I recently joined remembers my mom for that very reason. In ’88, I
began taking lessons from my Dad until some idiot (no idea who) ran the
tanks of my training plane dry over Idaho. That stopped training for me
and never resumed until this year when I found some money and time and
the support of an amazing person who is not interested in flying…my
wife. 1 year ago, I took a ground school class at a local community
college (also my employer
instructor and a plane.
Within a few years of teaching my Mom how to fly, my parents divorced
and money/time became limiting factors for flying for all of us. My mom
has not flown in many, many years and has no intent of doing so again.
She has about 95 hours TT. My Dad also quit instructing and only has
flown a handful of times since then. He lost his medical a couple years
ago after having a quintuple-bypass (no heart attack or damage!) but got
it back on a yearly basis. This year, he got it back and, with some
financial assistance from me, got back up-to-speed for flying safely and
insured to instruct. The same club my Mom was in, I joined and they
(again) let my Dad teach in their airplane.
In short, my entire immediate family flies (excluding wife/kids). My
wife was my first pax and I’m still negotiating taking our 1 year-old
flying with her. I *LOVE* flying and wish my wife shared the same
passion and enthusiasm, even a little. Maybe in time, but for now,
she’s a nervous mommy who is concerned about what will happen to Alex if
we crashed, especially if he was parentless.
Anyhow, I can’t wait to introduce my son to flying. I remember my Dad
I also remember my Dad ferrying the plane to the
flying with another pilot many years ago in a Piper Seneca II and they
were practicing engine-out procedures. I was white-knuckled holding on
for dear life to the seat because I *knew* we were going to crash. I
laugh about it now.
Tri-Cities area of Washington State and how much fun it was when I got
to take the controls for a while.
I know my Dad is extremely proud of me. I’ve got the t-shirt and the
logbook to prove it. Also, he was glad I poked, prodded, pushed, and
shoved his ass back into the cockpit to fly again. Not many people can
say their Dad taught them how to fly. Even fewer can say that their Dad
taught them AND their Mom how to fly. I plan to eventually get my CFI
ticket to teach my son how to fly. He already likes playing in the
airplane.
Happy Landings, all!
Chris G.
PP-ASEL, 8/27/05
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john smith wrote:
> Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
> My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our
> own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three.
> He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout.
> I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there.
I share the same passion and get giddy when my children (7 and 2)
express an interest in going flying! Up until recently, we would take
family trips up to the airport and throw the kids bikes in the back of
my truck… I would wash and wax the plane and the kids would ride
their bikes around our fairly vacant airport. (Okay, so my two year
old son would sit in the airplane, pulling and pushing anything he
could get his hands on, while my seven year old daughter would ride her
bike around the airport). I would want to go up for a quick spin
around the pattern and would ask my daughter if she would want to go
for a quick ride, to which she would respond, "No thanks… I’ll just
ride my bike around…" OUCH!!!
Well… about a month ago, my daughter said, "daddy, will you teach me
how to fly?" I told my wife, "gotta go!!! I’m going to give my first
"unofficial" flying lesson!!! Woo Hoo!!!". My daughter and I went up
to about 5,500 feet and I started explaining the horizon, showed her
the altimeter and what it does when you pull back on the yoke and what
it does when you push forward on the yoke… Showed her the VSI and
it’s reactions, then the DG… I then had her peforming shallow turns,
while maintaining altitude. It would often require a little nudge with
my thumb to get her back down to altitude, or a tug of the finger to
get her back up to altitude, but for the most part, I would point out
the VSI and point out that it was going down and that she needed to
pull back gently and visa-versa. So, we did this for about an hour and
believe it or not, I think she got it, to some extent??? She then
asked me what every single instrument in the plane was for and
expressed a genuine interest in hearing my response!
I am soooo stoked about this, and look forward to MANY trips as she
gets older, where I can sit back and let her get us from point A to
point B, because she wants to!!!
1 year old is still young and all that seems to happen at that point is
the engine noise puts them right to sleep. I’m sure your wife will
come around in time and you can start taking the family on those trips
that will forever be engrained in their minds!
My friends think I’m a little nuts because I want to continue teaching
my seven year old to fly, so I’m glad to hear that there are others who
feel the same way!
Best of luck!
Todd
>> I also remember my Dad ferrying the plane to the
>> Tri-Cities area of Washington State and how much fun it was when I got
>> to take the controls for a while.
BTW – It was out of Snohomish, where my dad took me up at two weeks
old. I think I’ve
flown out of there a lot, but don’t remember much of it… ;-)
Todd,
Thanks! I’m glad I’m not alone in this either. I did forget to mention
that my first word was "airplane" (in kid-speak, of course).
CUL!
Chris
My two year old can spot a Jet flying over at 50,000 feet! (We live
under a victor airway from SAC to RENO) He can say airplane, but for
some reason he sticks to umm-umm??? He’s been saying it for over a
year.
It is so cool to see him perk up, when he hears one flying over… He
goes, "ooooohhhhhh, umm-umm!!!"
Best Regards!
I am the first in my family to get my pilots license.
I have a second cousin on my father side that has his pilots license as
well. We are the only two in an extended family of over a hundred.
Michelle
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john smith wrote:
>Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
>My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our
>own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three.
>He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout.
>I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there.
My father is a lifelong aviation nut. He went to school to be a
aeronautical engineer, but the school wasn’t accredited properly. I went
through the dozens and dozens of notebooks he did, all in india ink, all
lettered, solving trig and engineering math problems. His work was neat, and
precise to the point of being artistic. He drew up plans for new designs
and built models of them. However, he was not able to get the degree he
needed, and spent the rest of his life working in other areas.
We spent summer Sundays at airports. Pilots are not an especially congenial
lot, especially when talking to casual visitors. So we stood aloof and
watched. I developed a love for the sheer mystery of it all. Sometimes,
even now I look at my wings above the clouds and cannot believe that anyone,
especially I, can do this. I take my father along whenever I can.
My mother passed away about five years ago. She left me some money, and I
used it to buy an old airplane. I believe that machine has a benevolent and
protective soul which has saved me on more than one occasion. My mother was
totally devoted to my brother and me, and nothing keeps her memory closer
than flying that airplane.
The first long trip in the airplane after I got my license was when I took
the family to Disneyworld. It was a picture-perfect trip, but destined to
be our last as a family. We divorced shortly thereafter.
On the other hand, my two boys couldn’t care less about flying. I could
interest the older boy a little when I told him that chicks dig pilots, but
now that he’s older he calls my bluff and says well, what happened to you?
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> Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
> My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our
> own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three.
> He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout.
> I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there.
john smith wrote:
> Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
> My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our
> own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three.
> He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout.
> I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there.
My dad started in Stearmans back in 1943, then went on to fly C-47s in the
Mediterean Theater in WWII. After a relatively short mustering out, he went
back in for Korea and flew C-46s. When that war ended, he was a ROTC instructor
at Brooklyn College and flew cadets around in a C-45. His next billet involved
flying C-121s, SA-16s and C-54s for Air Rescue. Our last duty station before he
retired was with the 6th Weather Wing at Andrews AFB, Camp Springs, MD when I
was in the 8th grade.
He never touched an airplane again until I handed over control of a Cherokee Six
to him on a trip down to the Bahamas. Within 5 minutes, he was holding heading
within 5 degrees and altitude within 50 feet. Not too shabby for an old fart.
I let him fly a couple of months ago with me (he’s now 81) and he didn’t
disgrace himself that time either.
My mother hated us flying. It was worse after I had an accident where I got
hurt pretty badly. I ended up giving it up myself when I lost my medical back
in 1990. She was delighted (although she always denied it). Anyway, since she
died last year, I got my medical back this spring and here I am… and my old
man never gave me a bit of grief about starting again. I think he’s proud of
me. I know I am of him.
–
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschn…@carolina.rr.com.REMOVE
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> Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
I grew up knowing that my father was a top turret gunner in the 100th Bomb
Group on a B-17 late in WWII. In the last few years I also found out that my
dad started taking flying lessons in the early 40′s in a Luscombe (currently
located just south of Jay H.) but never soloed. I also had an uncle that use
to fly until he got married in the late 30′s or early 40′s. His wife forbade
him from flying again.
(OT) My dad and I are going to Pittsburgh next week for a 100th Bomb Group
reunion. It’s great to listen to all the stories!
http://100thbg.org/index.htm
-Greg B.
I think we live under that same victor airway in Grass Valley. WHere you
at?
Jim
" (We live
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> under a victor airway from SAC to RENO)
Garden Valley… 036 off of SAC and 300 off of Hangtown…
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> "john smith" <jsm…@net.net> wrote in message
> news:jsmith-FC4EB1.14032620092005@news-rdr-01.ohiordc.rr.com…
>> Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
> This topic has revealed a fact that I have not thought of before: I may be
> the only person in our family that has held a pilot’s certificate. There
> may
> have been some members that flew during wartime, but I am not aware of
> them.
> Even so, I don’t recall any member of my family, mother or father’s side
> that flew airplanes privately.
> Talk about bucking the trend!
> -Trent
> PP-ASEL, trendsetter.
Only two pilots in my family history that I’m aware of:
I had an uncle who flew the photo-recon version (F6? or F5?) of the Mustang
in WWII.
I have a cousin who I’ve not seen in many years who flew two tours in Cobra
Gunships in Viet Nam and then went on to become (possibly) one of the
earliest "Mr Moms" on the planet (mid 1970′s). He married a world-class
chemist (I’m told she invented Calgon Bath Beads amongst other things…)
and he stayed home with the kids while continuing to fly in the Army
National Guard and also deliver new GA helos to customers across the
country. By weird coincidence, I actually photographed him flying several
years ago at an airshow … his unit was long gone back to base by the time
I discovered he was one of the demo pilots.
Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
AZ Cloudbusters
Chandler, AZ
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> "john smith" <jsm…@net.net> wrote in message
> news:jsmith-FC4EB1.14032620092005@news-rdr-01.ohiordc.rr.com…
>> Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
> I grew up knowing that my father was a top turret gunner in the 100th Bomb
> Group on a B-17 late in WWII. In the last few years I also found out that
> my dad started taking flying lessons in the early 40′s in a Luscombe
> (currently located just south of Jay H.) but never soloed. I also had an
> uncle that use to fly until he got married in the late 30′s or early 40′s.
> His wife forbade him from flying again.
Weren’t the top turret gunners usually the highest ranking enlisted man on
board?
Why do I remember that it was often a sargeant up there? Safer (relatively
speaking?)
Jay B
"john smith" <jsm…@net.net> wrote in message
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> Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
> My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our
> own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three.
> He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout.
> I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there.
My father passed away in 1972 having never even flown as a passenger.
My oldest brother got his pilots license in 1970, my #2 brother was scarred
to death of flying.
–
Matt
———————
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO
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>> I grew up knowing that my father was a top turret gunner in the 100th
>> Bomb Group on a B-17 late in WWII. In the last few years I also found out
>> that my dad started taking flying lessons in the early 40′s in a Luscombe
>> (currently located just south of Jay H.) but never soloed. I also had an
>> uncle that use to fly until he got married in the late 30′s or early
>> 40′s. His wife forbade him from flying again.
> Weren’t the top turret gunners usually the highest ranking enlisted man on
> board?
> Why do I remember that it was often a sargeant up there? Safer
> (relatively speaking?)
Yes, he was a Sgt/TTE. See his crew here
http://100thbg.org/mainpages/crews/crews5/guhse.htm He’s the last one of his
crew.
-Greg B.
john smith wrote:
> Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
my dad flew quite a bit too, but when he came to visit me
recently (via the airlines) it was the very first time that
he i) flew in a jet; ii) landed with the airplane with which
he took off; iii) was doing it willingly and for fun; and
iv) was not carrying a weapon in the process.
not sure if that counts,
–Sylvain
I haven’t gotten my pilots license yet, but I have soloed. I know on my
fathers side of the family that my father and grandfather both took lessons
but never soloed. So that is a first for my fathers side of the family.
On my mothers side of the family, my grandfather flew several planes in
WWII. He is probably the sole reason for my appeal to flying. His favorite
aircraft was the PBY-Catalina. My uncle also has a private pilots license
and used to own a taildragger. Today though I am the only active pilot.
–
John Huthmaker
huthmak…@email.uophx.edu
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> Just curious how much "trickle-down" aviation there is among us?
> My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our
> own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three.
> He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout.
> I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there.