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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;john smith wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;my dad flew quite a bit too, &#160;but when he came to visit me &lt;br /&gt; recently (via the airlines) it was the very first time that &lt;br /&gt; he i) flew in a jet; ii) landed with the airplane with which &lt;br /&gt; he took off; iii) was doing it willingly and for fun; and &lt;br /&gt; iv) was not carrying a weapon in the process. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;not sure if that counts, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;--Sylvain &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john smith wrote: <br /> &gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us? </p>
<p>my dad flew quite a bit too, &nbsp;but when he came to visit me <br /> recently (via the airlines) it was the very first time that <br /> he i) flew in a jet; ii) landed with the airplane with which <br /> he took off; iii) was doing it willingly and for fun; and <br /> iv) was not carrying a weapon in the process.  </p>
<p>not sure if that counts,  </p>
<p>&#8211;Sylvain </p>
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  I haven&#039;t gotten my pilots license yet, but I have soloed. &#160;I know on my &lt;br /&gt; fathers side of the family that my father and grandfather both took lessons &lt;br /&gt; but never soloed. &#160;So that is a first for my fathers side of the family. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;On my mothers side of the family, my grandfather flew several planes in &lt;br /&gt; WWII. &#160;He is probably the sole reason for my appeal to flying. &#160;His favorite &lt;br /&gt; aircraft was the PBY-Catalina. &#160;My uncle also has a private pilots license &lt;br /&gt; and used to own a taildragger. &#160;Today though I am the only active pilot. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; John Huthmaker &lt;br /&gt; huthmak...@email.uophx.edu &lt;br /&gt; &quot;john smith&quot; &lt;jsm...@net.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:jsmith-FC4EB1.14032620092005@news-rdr-01.ohiordc.rr.com... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our &lt;br /&gt; &gt; own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t gotten my pilots license yet, but I have soloed. &nbsp;I know on my <br /> fathers side of the family that my father and grandfather both took lessons <br /> but never soloed. &nbsp;So that is a first for my fathers side of the family. <br /> 
<p>On my mothers side of the family, my grandfather flew several planes in <br /> WWII. &nbsp;He is probably the sole reason for my appeal to flying. &nbsp;His favorite <br /> aircraft was the PBY-Catalina. &nbsp;My uncle also has a private pilots license <br /> and used to own a taildragger. &nbsp;Today though I am the only active pilot.  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> John Huthmaker <br /> <a href="mailto:huthmak...@email.uophx.edu">huthmak&#8230;@email.uophx.edu</a> <br /> &quot;john smith&quot; &lt;jsm&#8230;@net.net&gt; wrote in message </p>
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<p>&gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us? <br /> 
<p>&gt; My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our <br /> &gt; own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three. <br /> &gt; He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout. <br /> &gt; I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there. </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&quot;john smith&quot; &lt;jsm...@net.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:jsmith-FC4EB1.14032620092005@news-rdr-01.ohiordc.rr.com... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our &lt;br /&gt; &gt; own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;My father passed away in 1972 having never even flown as a passenger. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My oldest brother got his pilots license in 1970, my #2 brother was scarred &lt;br /&gt; to death of flying. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; Matt &lt;br /&gt; --------------------- &lt;br /&gt; Matthew W. Barrow &lt;br /&gt; Site-Fill Homes, LLC. &lt;br /&gt; Montrose, CO &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us?  </p>
<p>&gt; My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our <br /> &gt; own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three. <br /> &gt; He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout. <br /> &gt; I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there. </p>
<p>My father passed away in 1972 having never even flown as a passenger.  </p>
<p>My oldest brother got his pilots license in 1970, my #2 brother was scarred <br /> to death of flying.  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> Matt <br /> &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; <br /> Matthew W. Barrow <br /> Site-Fill Homes, LLC. <br /> Montrose, CO </p>
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  &quot;Jay Beckman&quot; &lt;jnsbeck...@cox.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:gu0Ye.255669$E95.174206@fed1read01... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt; I grew up knowing that my father was a top turret gunner in the 100th &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Bomb Group on a B-17 late in WWII. In the last few years I also found out &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; that my dad started taking flying lessons in the early 40&#039;s in a Luscombe &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; (currently located just south of Jay H.) but never soloed. I also had an &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; uncle that use to fly until he got married in the late 30&#039;s or early &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; 40&#039;s. His wife forbade him from flying again. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Weren&#039;t the top turret gunners usually the highest ranking enlisted man on &lt;br /&gt; &gt; board? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Why do I remember that it was often a sargeant up there? &#160;Safer &lt;br /&gt; &gt; (relatively speaking?) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Yes, he was a Sgt/TTE. See his crew here &lt;br /&gt; http://100thbg.org/mainpages/crews/crews5/guhse.htm He&#039;s the last one of his &lt;br /&gt; crew. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-Greg B. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt;&gt; I grew up knowing that my father was a top turret gunner in the 100th <br /> &gt;&gt; Bomb Group on a B-17 late in WWII. In the last few years I also found out <br /> &gt;&gt; that my dad started taking flying lessons in the early 40&#8242;s in a Luscombe <br /> &gt;&gt; (currently located just south of Jay H.) but never soloed. I also had an <br /> &gt;&gt; uncle that use to fly until he got married in the late 30&#8242;s or early <br /> &gt;&gt; 40&#8242;s. His wife forbade him from flying again.  </p>
<p>&gt; Weren&#8217;t the top turret gunners usually the highest ranking enlisted man on <br /> &gt; board?  </p>
<p>&gt; Why do I remember that it was often a sargeant up there? &nbsp;Safer <br /> &gt; (relatively speaking?) </p>
<p>Yes, he was a Sgt/TTE. See his crew here <br /> <a href="http://100thbg.org/mainpages/crews/crews5/guhse.htm" rel="nofollow">http://100thbg.org/mainpages/crews/crews5/guhse.htm</a> He&#8217;s the last one of his <br /> crew.  </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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  &quot;Trent Moorehead&quot; &lt;twmoorehead_nosp...@netzero.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:433064ff$1@news1.dpn.deere.com... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &quot;john smith&quot; &lt;jsm...@net.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &gt; news:jsmith-FC4EB1.14032620092005@news-rdr-01.ohiordc.rr.com... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; This topic has revealed a fact that I have not thought of before: I may be &lt;br /&gt; &gt; the only person in our family that has held a pilot&#039;s certificate. There &lt;br /&gt; &gt; may &lt;br /&gt; &gt; have been some members that flew during wartime, but I am not aware of &lt;br /&gt; &gt; them. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Even so, I don&#039;t recall any member of my family, mother or father&#039;s side &lt;br /&gt; &gt; that flew airplanes privately. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Talk about bucking the trend! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; -Trent &lt;br /&gt; &gt; PP-ASEL, trendsetter. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Only two pilots in my family history that I&#039;m aware of: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I had an uncle who flew the photo-recon version (F6? or F5?) of the Mustang &lt;br /&gt; in WWII. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have a cousin who I&#039;ve not seen in many years who flew two tours in Cobra &lt;br /&gt; Gunships in Viet Nam and then went on to become (possibly) one of the &lt;br /&gt; earliest &quot;Mr Moms&quot; on the planet (mid 1970&#039;s). &#160;He married a world-class &lt;br /&gt; chemist (I&#039;m told she invented Calgon Bath Beads amongst other things...) &lt;br /&gt; and he stayed home with the kids while continuing to fly in the Army &lt;br /&gt; National Guard and also deliver new GA helos to customers across the &lt;br /&gt; country. &#160;By weird coincidence, I actually photographed him flying several &lt;br /&gt; years ago at an airshow ... his unit was long gone back to base by the time &lt;br /&gt; I discovered he was one of the demo pilots. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jay Beckman &lt;br /&gt; PP-ASEL &lt;br /&gt; AZ Cloudbusters &lt;br /&gt; Chandler, AZ &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt; &quot;john smith&quot; &lt;jsm&#8230;@net.net&gt; wrote in message <br /> &gt; news:jsmith-FC4EB1.14032620092005@news-rdr-01.ohiordc.rr.com&#8230; <br /> &gt;&gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us?  </p>
<p>&gt; This topic has revealed a fact that I have not thought of before: I may be <br /> &gt; the only person in our family that has held a pilot&#8217;s certificate. There <br /> &gt; may <br /> &gt; have been some members that flew during wartime, but I am not aware of <br /> &gt; them. <br /> &gt; Even so, I don&#8217;t recall any member of my family, mother or father&#8217;s side <br /> &gt; that flew airplanes privately.  </p>
<p>&gt; Talk about bucking the trend!  </p>
<p>&gt; -Trent <br /> &gt; PP-ASEL, trendsetter. </p>
<p>Only two pilots in my family history that I&#8217;m aware of:  </p>
<p>I had an uncle who flew the photo-recon version (F6? or F5?) of the Mustang <br /> in WWII.  </p>
<p>I have a cousin who I&#8217;ve not seen in many years who flew two tours in Cobra <br /> Gunships in Viet Nam and then went on to become (possibly) one of the <br /> earliest &quot;Mr Moms&quot; on the planet (mid 1970&#8242;s). &nbsp;He married a world-class <br /> chemist (I&#8217;m told she invented Calgon Bath Beads amongst other things&#8230;) <br /> and he stayed home with the kids while continuing to fly in the Army <br /> National Guard and also deliver new GA helos to customers across the <br /> country. &nbsp;By weird coincidence, I actually photographed him flying several <br /> years ago at an airshow &#8230; his unit was long gone back to base by the time <br /> I discovered he was one of the demo pilots.  </p>
<p>Jay Beckman <br /> PP-ASEL <br /> AZ Cloudbusters <br /> Chandler, AZ </p>
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  &quot;N93332&quot; &lt;Erco...@charterdot.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:jR%Xe.617$L45.285@fe07.lga... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; &quot;john smith&quot; &lt;jsm...@net.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &gt; news:jsmith-FC4EB1.14032620092005@news-rdr-01.ohiordc.rr.com... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I grew up knowing that my father was a top turret gunner in the 100th Bomb &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Group on a B-17 late in WWII. In the last few years I also found out that &lt;br /&gt; &gt; my dad started taking flying lessons in the early 40&#039;s in a Luscombe &lt;br /&gt; &gt; (currently located just south of Jay H.) but never soloed. I also had an &lt;br /&gt; &gt; uncle that use to fly until he got married in the late 30&#039;s or early 40&#039;s. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; His wife forbade him from flying again. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Weren&#039;t the top turret gunners usually the highest ranking enlisted man on &lt;br /&gt; board? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why do I remember that it was often a sargeant up there? &#160;Safer (relatively &lt;br /&gt; speaking?) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jay B &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt; &quot;john smith&quot; &lt;jsm&#8230;@net.net&gt; wrote in message <br /> &gt; news:jsmith-FC4EB1.14032620092005@news-rdr-01.ohiordc.rr.com&#8230; <br /> &gt;&gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us?  </p>
<p>&gt; I grew up knowing that my father was a top turret gunner in the 100th Bomb <br /> &gt; Group on a B-17 late in WWII. In the last few years I also found out that <br /> &gt; my dad started taking flying lessons in the early 40&#8242;s in a Luscombe <br /> &gt; (currently located just south of Jay H.) but never soloed. I also had an <br /> &gt; uncle that use to fly until he got married in the late 30&#8242;s or early 40&#8242;s. <br /> &gt; His wife forbade him from flying again. </p>
<p>Weren&#8217;t the top turret gunners usually the highest ranking enlisted man on <br /> board?  </p>
<p>Why do I remember that it was often a sargeant up there? &nbsp;Safer (relatively <br /> speaking?)  </p>
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  Garden Valley... &#160;036 off of SAC and 300 off of Hangtown... &lt;br /&gt;
  
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  &quot;john smith&quot; &lt;jsm...@net.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:jsmith-FC4EB1.14032620092005@news-rdr-01.ohiordc.rr.com... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I grew up knowing that my father was a top turret gunner in the 100th Bomb &lt;br /&gt; Group on a B-17 late in WWII. In the last few years I also found out that my &lt;br /&gt; dad started taking flying lessons in the early 40&#039;s in a Luscombe (currently &lt;br /&gt; located just south of Jay H.) but never soloed. I also had an uncle that use &lt;br /&gt; to fly until he got married in the late 30&#039;s or early 40&#039;s. His wife forbade &lt;br /&gt; him from flying again. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(OT) My dad and I are going to Pittsburgh next week for a 100th Bomb Group &lt;br /&gt; reunion. It&#039;s great to listen to all the stories! &lt;br /&gt; http://100thbg.org/index.htm &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-Greg B. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us? </p>
<p>I grew up knowing that my father was a top turret gunner in the 100th Bomb <br /> Group on a B-17 late in WWII. In the last few years I also found out that my <br /> dad started taking flying lessons in the early 40&#8242;s in a Luscombe (currently <br /> located just south of Jay H.) but never soloed. I also had an uncle that use <br /> to fly until he got married in the late 30&#8242;s or early 40&#8242;s. His wife forbade <br /> him from flying again.  </p>
<p>(OT) My dad and I are going to Pittsburgh next week for a 100th Bomb Group <br /> reunion. It&#8217;s great to listen to all the stories! <br /> <a href="http://100thbg.org/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://100thbg.org/index.htm</a>  </p>
<p>-Greg B. </p>
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  I think we live under that same victor airway in Grass Valley. &#160;WHere you &lt;br /&gt; at? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;Jim &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot; &#160;(We live &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt; under a victor airway from SAC to RENO) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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  My father is a lifelong aviation nut. &#160;He went to school to be a &lt;br /&gt; aeronautical engineer, but the school wasn&#039;t accredited properly. &#160;I went &lt;br /&gt; through the dozens and dozens of notebooks he did, all in india ink, all &lt;br /&gt; lettered, solving trig and engineering math problems. His work was neat, and &lt;br /&gt; precise to the point of being artistic. &#160; He drew up plans for new designs &lt;br /&gt; and built models of them. &#160;However, he was not able to get the degree he &lt;br /&gt; needed, and spent the rest of his life working in other areas. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;We spent summer Sundays at airports. &#160;Pilots are not an especially congenial &lt;br /&gt; lot, especially when talking to casual visitors. &#160;So we stood aloof and &lt;br /&gt; watched. &#160;I developed a love for the sheer mystery of it all. &#160;Sometimes, &lt;br /&gt; even now I look at my wings above the clouds and cannot believe that anyone, &lt;br /&gt; especially I, can do this. &#160;I take my father along whenever I can. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My mother passed away about five years ago. &#160;She left me some money, and I &lt;br /&gt; used it to buy an old airplane. I believe that machine has a benevolent and &lt;br /&gt; protective soul which has saved me on more than one occasion. &#160;My mother was &lt;br /&gt; totally devoted to my brother and me, and nothing keeps her memory closer &lt;br /&gt; than flying that airplane. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The first long trip in the airplane after I got my license was when I took &lt;br /&gt; the family to Disneyworld. &#160;It was a picture-perfect trip, but destined to &lt;br /&gt; be our last as a family. &#160;We divorced shortly thereafter. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, my two boys couldn&#039;t care less about flying. &#160;I could &lt;br /&gt; interest the older boy a little when I told him that chicks dig pilots, but &lt;br /&gt; now that he&#039;s older he calls my bluff and says well, what happened to you? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;john smith&quot; &lt;jsm...@net.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:jsmith-FC4EB1.14032620092005@news-rdr-01.ohiordc.rr.com... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our &lt;br /&gt; &gt; own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father is a lifelong aviation nut. &nbsp;He went to school to be a <br /> aeronautical engineer, but the school wasn&#8217;t accredited properly. &nbsp;I went <br /> through the dozens and dozens of notebooks he did, all in india ink, all <br /> lettered, solving trig and engineering math problems. His work was neat, and <br /> precise to the point of being artistic. &nbsp; He drew up plans for new designs <br /> and built models of them. &nbsp;However, he was not able to get the degree he <br /> needed, and spent the rest of his life working in other areas. <br /> 
<p>We spent summer Sundays at airports. &nbsp;Pilots are not an especially congenial <br /> lot, especially when talking to casual visitors. &nbsp;So we stood aloof and <br /> watched. &nbsp;I developed a love for the sheer mystery of it all. &nbsp;Sometimes, <br /> even now I look at my wings above the clouds and cannot believe that anyone, <br /> especially I, can do this. &nbsp;I take my father along whenever I can.  </p>
<p>My mother passed away about five years ago. &nbsp;She left me some money, and I <br /> used it to buy an old airplane. I believe that machine has a benevolent and <br /> protective soul which has saved me on more than one occasion. &nbsp;My mother was <br /> totally devoted to my brother and me, and nothing keeps her memory closer <br /> than flying that airplane.  </p>
<p>The first long trip in the airplane after I got my license was when I took <br /> the family to Disneyworld. &nbsp;It was a picture-perfect trip, but destined to <br /> be our last as a family. &nbsp;We divorced shortly thereafter.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, my two boys couldn&#8217;t care less about flying. &nbsp;I could <br /> interest the older boy a little when I told him that chicks dig pilots, but <br /> now that he&#8217;s older he calls my bluff and says well, what happened to you?  </p>
<p>&quot;john smith&quot; &lt;jsm&#8230;@net.net&gt; wrote in message </p>
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<p>&gt; Just curious how much &quot;trickle-down&quot; aviation there is among us? <br /> 
<p>&gt; My father flew, that is how I got started. We never owned a plane of our <br /> &gt; own, only rented. I got my first plane ride when I was three. <br /> &gt; He was my first passenger upon passing my PPC checkride and J3 checkout. <br /> &gt; I got to fly him to Oshkosh for his first trip there. </p>
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